# P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 9, 2006, 12:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197 "2006-03-09T00:11:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SwingerMD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwingerMD)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/41 "2006-04-21T07:51:41Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > P75 and P76, if they end up acting pheromonally in a generative manner, may actually end up being stronger than androstenone… so caution should be exercised. I’d start very low with these. Hmm . . . p76 definately seems to be very potent. As for p75, at 60mcgs I was getting a lot of positive (follows asking me to dance) results. Perhaps maybe a tad too much since they wouldn’t let me rest. -SwingerMD ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2006, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/42 "2006-04-21T08:11:26Z")
Any observations on lower P76 dosages since there are no effects at high dosages? ---
**Author:** ![SwingerMD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwingerMD)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/43 "2006-04-23T09:06:46Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > Any observations on lower P76 dosages since there are no effects at high dosages? I did try once with a dose of 30mcg. No noticable rxn. Perhaps that is still too much. It seems to me that p76 is definately -none like. With -none (from what I have observed) there is a range of dosage that is in between ideal and reactionary OD. When you are in this between range, noticing any rxns is very hard since the concentration is not quite enough to send everyone within a 10 ft radius to “run off into the hills”. If you are very observant you can pick up that everyone around you is tense/ a bit tightly wound up. I’m thinking of going back later and start with one spray of 5 mcgs. -SwingerMD ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/44 "2006-04-23T15:20:54Z")
Was there a qualitative distinction to P76 In light of my tests with P79 and P80, they both appear to have intesnsity, and both in the Yang direction, concerned with male identity energies, P80 feels boundary firming, feet on the ground, appreciating women without hungering for them, some ego intensification minus the -none combative impulse… P79 didn’t have the “musculature” of P80. Possibly the sense was tribal, let go of the ego-self to a degree and carve the boats, thatch the huts, roast the pig, do a good job and get on with things… Could any more specific character be assigned to [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)-P76 ? If you inhale them deeply for 60 seconds do you have a behavioral, emotional, or cognitive shift that pops out of the background “ordinary self” ? ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/45 "2006-04-23T15:25:07Z")
Hmm so if P76 is none like,then [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is A1 like I guess? ---
**Author:** ![SwingerMD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwingerMD)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/46 "2006-04-24T07:49:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Hmm so if P76 is none like,then P75 is A1 like I guess? For me A1, gives me such a nasty headache that I usually not in a very receptive mood when I wear it. [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) doesn’t effect me negatively at all (the other guys don’t seem to like it much). As for specific character to each: p74 “Inner connection” p75 “Centered” p76 “Tense/ on edge” p77 “?!” p78 “Spacey” ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/47 "2006-04-24T08:02:18Z")
Hence [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is like A1 without ANY negative effects on the wearer and repels all else that is male,while making you the centre of female attraction. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2006, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/48 "2006-04-24T09:41:15Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > Hence P75 is like A1 without ANY negative effects on the wearer and repels all else that is male,while making you the centre of female attraction. Has anyone else tried [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)? Visionary ---
**Author:** ![SwingerMD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwingerMD)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/49 "2006-04-26T07:14:36Z")
> [@Homura83](#): > > Hence P75 is like A1 without ANY negative effects on the wearer and repels all else that is male,while making you the centre of female attraction. It seems that way. Not sure how it works to repel other males without side effects on the (male) user. Anyhow so far my favorites are p74, p75, and p78. -SwingerMD ---
**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/50 "2006-04-26T07:28:23Z")
Ok,I’ll test [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) to see how it works.Hope to get similar results as you.🙂 On its way to my doorstep together with LAM.Anything to get some attention man!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/51 "2006-04-26T08:44:25Z")
Hi Aurelie! have you got anything to report from the [putative pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/)? It’s been over a month since you’ve got them so surely you’ve had a play … right ? Visionary > [@Aurelie](#): > > Hi everybody! > > My putatives arrived with FedEx Friday, literally 10 minutes before I was due to leave for a nice get-away weekend. So I grabbed out of the box the “safe” ones, and the putatives are homework for this week. > > But what I really wanted to suggest/enquire about is: > Would there be any benefit to testing out the putatives alongside with Instant Openness + Instant Honesty? > > My theory is that wearing those 2 as a base might make the reactions to the putative more “visible”. I mean, since IO + IH make people talk and talk frankly, wouldn’t that be a good way of finding out what is on their mind while under the influence of the putative? > > What do you all think? > > Jasmin - Now there’s the scientific test of the week! — “I sniffed them ALL” 😃 > > PS I’ll report on the Instant Shine diffuser tomorrow. That thing is powerful! ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/52 "2006-04-26T15:31:42Z")
They elicit a punchy, strong, not bad body odor chickeneggchickenegg or eggchickeneggchicken effect ? My immediate environment has a lingering cocktail of putative and basic mones, possibly betwen microgram and nanogram constant exposure… my B.O. has lost it’s grotty old guy aged cheddar cheeze phunque and reverted to a sweeter, more fragrant, healthy manlike aroma… one could envision that the midbrain, or the hypothalamus or the HPA axis has been tricked into thinking that I’m in the company of reproductively competent young adults… as in a harem of ovulating love bunnies ALL the time, nonstop… this in turn may signal to my poor, sexually drained, fantasy scorched elderbody that dripping GHrH (growth hormone releasing hormone) into my hypothalamus to up-regulate whatever… IGF-1 and a slew of other cellular energizers… rise, Old Pharte… go ye forthe and procreate !!! Alas, I’m wise to my own impulses and settle into my danish comfy chair to watch extreme combat sports, game shows, and “news” where egomaniac psychos scream at each other… most enlightening, most enlightening indeed… although I am tempted to try P77… anything that produces a (?!) comment has to be good for something, and P78 (spacey)… sure, spacy is good, spacy can be fum, I’m spacey a lot anyway, alpha-nol makes me spacey, Kevin Spacey wasn’t bad in American Beauty, and there was a pheromone movie for ya… mixed signals, inappropriate desires, demented materialism, gay nazi dad, connoisseur grade pot, voyeurism… what would IO have done to this chaotic encounter session ?🙄 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/53 "2006-04-26T15:58:47Z")
Heh… A real “Time to repopulate the planet” instinct emerging, eh? (heck, you could be reacting more to the political climate in the US more than the pheromones) I liked American Beauty. I like Kevin Spacey, too, even though at his best he’s always playing… Kevin Spacey. I’m not sure he would be considered a “real” actor? Anyway, a-nol does indeed make some people spacey. Not all, though. It shares two major attributes of alcohol… especially something “light & euphoric” like a good glass of wine, or champagne. It makes some people chatty, and other people kind of lightened and a little “blank” (AKA spacey). The one attribute it doesn’t share is making some people violent or angry – thank goodness! You also don’t get hungover from alpha androstenol – another big plus. ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/54 "2006-04-26T16:09:07Z")
Mharris, I have a question on nol. The SOE brand and the Spaceland brand do not seem to give the same reaction. Like laughter where as one feels spacy and then sometimes laughter. Is there different ingredients? ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/55 "2006-04-26T17:19:46Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > Mharris, I have a question on nol. The SOE brand and the Spaceland brand do not seem to give the same reaction. Like laughter where as one feels spacy and then sometimes laughter. Is there different ingredients? That’s because they’re quite different. SOE is spaciness (anol) and masculine warmth (rone). It diffuses at a slow to moderate rate, depending on whether it’s scented or not. (in the scented, the musk aids diffusion quite a bit) Spaceland is primarily spacey (anol), with some anxiety reducing components. Unlike SOE, it diffuses rather quickly (some might even say it hits you over the head!) What do you experience with each? ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/56 "2006-04-26T18:27:27Z")
Is a-nol spacey the same, not same, incomparable with P78 spacey ? a-nol goes beyond generic spacey… it’s rrrrrrrooooomannntic shweetnik… tres Zha Zha… everything is illuminated with pheeeeelings and lovability… most of the time that is… every orifice is an opening to another world… eeennnnnter the forbidddden zone and exxxplore… ok, not quite… maybe, on a good night… with 2 or 3 martinis… P78… emotive ? cognitive ? defocusing ? refocusing ? social resonance enhancing ? solipsistic ? dimension expanding or dimension reducing ? Centrifugal or centripital ? granular or holistic ? From a folk culture anthro standpoint, the 70-80’s had an excess “cocaine energy”… self, self, self… granular, narrow, solipsistic… basically fucked up… Then the rebellion, Exstacy… us,us,us… the big global WE… holistic, broad, expansive, empathetic… and also overboard in the other direction… Now, protein drinks ? Vitamin water ? Rehab ? Donny Bonaduce reveals everything and nobody notices ? TomKat ? Brangelina ? Terminal Tabloid Stupidity ? Just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in. Is the world ready for P78? ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/57 "2006-04-27T02:12:36Z")
P80 in a group setting P80 is a sneaky beastie… in a group it brought about a quiet, instrospective state of mind… the being aspect of people was amplified, where they could be quietly but deeply communicative… wholly non dramatic… measured, real… non erotic and non euphoric… I think this is the centering effect of it I felt last time… ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/58 "2006-05-27T04:10:58Z")
Hello to my fellow Pheronaughts walking around with experimone phero signatures that no man has worn before (maybe other than MHarris 😛 )! Given that we have 20+ new products coming including experimones shall we revisit the old batch of experimones so as to make sure we dont miss out on something 🆒 **Well has anyone got anything to add to SwingerMD’s summary post below?** I know Tacitus was playing with P79 and P80 as well and a few guys were trying [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) (see the other thread). What do we make of P77? Swinger posts: “I spent a lot of time with p77 (and a lot of sprays) testing it at two dances, a family get together, and a day at work. Never went more than 60mcg (tried 30mcg). Didn’t really notice anything. This ones turning into a big head scratcher for me.” Visionary > [@SwingerMD](#): > > Hmm . . . I was actually 1/2 joking about tossing in the putatives. After thinking about this a bit more I would like to have these [putatives](https://a314.com/) with your upcoming oriental fragrance: > > Mix of p74 and p75 - p75 has a very strong sense of “magnetism” with the opposite (female) sex. Couple that with the very strong boyfriendish connection/empathy that p74 seems evoke, and you may have a very powerful mix. Of course arriving at the perfect ratio of the two (provided that the two are compatible at all), needs to be worked out (I’m thinking of working with mixes of the two after I get done with p79.) > > p75 - Alone it has a very -none/A1 qualities to it. > > p78 - This one seems to have some of the magnetism of p75 and some of the empathy of p74 coupled with the openness of -nol. > > p76 - I think you mentioned that this and p75 are very -none like. Unfortunately I have yet to stumble on the sweet spot for the dosage for this. I’m thinking that it may be on the low side. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/59 "2006-08-21T21:52:06Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > I suppose it won’t hurt too much. > > They excite me due to their larger than natural presence in the head sweat of men predominantly rated as typical “sexy” by women. (the presence in head sweat being a major clue that they may be pheromones) > > I’ll find out which two they are on Monday, and let you know. If I don’t post it right away, just bump this thread by asking again. bump! so, if I may ask, which two of the putatives are found in head sweat? ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2006, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/60 "2006-08-21T21:57:30Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > P75 and P76, if they end up acting pheromonally in a generative manner, may actually end up being stronger than androstenone… so caution should be exercised. I’d start very low with these. ah - so that was the hint? presuming that these are the head-sweat-from-good-looking-men mones, it’s curious that we haven’t found a way to get more powerful results from them as yet. entirely possible they don’t do very much, but maybe as a prior suggests perhaps persevering with these in various combinations/ratios with other mones and in various social contexts. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197.md?page=4)