# P75 @ 10mcgs (Gonna keep upping the dose) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 19, 2010, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417 "2010-11-19T05:46:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/1 "2010-11-19T05:46:23Z")
Keep seeing the threads pop up about [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) so I figured I’d venture out and push the limits like I did with P83 and see where it takes me. I personally like the self-effects of P75 where it limits my self-talk, makes me focus and gives me a bit o’ confidence. I’ve used it for working out and it just makes the time fly by…so here goes. Gonna start moving these reports back to the journal. **P75 Testing Day1** : 4s P75 @ 2.5mcgs = 10mcgs. 1s P79 @ 10mcgs **App Points:** P75 L,R,C Neck. Chest P79 Chest **Venue:** Work / Starbucks **Application Time:** 5:30 am **Self-Effects:** I was kind of busy getting the store opened and even though I was taking my time I finished early, actually got everything done before the lights went on. To clarify what I’m saying. I was once again just SOOO FOCUSED, my thoughts weren’t all over the place, I was wide awake and just getting things done without pause. Confidence is key with P75. Another reason you can get things done, there is no second guessing, you just get to work on whatever it is you’re doing and get it done. **Effects On Others:** I decided to push the limits a bit and see how far I could go with customers. A very interesting day to say the least. Not one customer gave me a hard time for any reason…Male or Female. And usually there’s always ONE, but not today. I was my usual cocky self with the females, giving them a hard time, making fun of them and all I got was giggles, snorts and hair twirling. co-workers gave me plenty of leeway. Co-Manager was overly friendly, was interesting…it was almost as if she was placating me, but not in a condescending kind of way. Extremely apologetic. **Final Thoughts:** P75 will always be a part of my arsenal. I will be upping the dosage over the next 2-4 work days, probably get up to 20mcgs and see where this takes me. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/2 "2010-11-19T20:17:24Z")
Great report. Keep them coming. I’m not sure just how I missed this but it most likely got pushed down by other posts. So I’m BUMPING it cause its good. So were there any abreactions to the ten mcg? Did you just not notice them because you were so focused and because of the lack of self-talk? Sometimes I wonder if its not that they didn’t occur, but they are actually passed over because we are so focused and positive. Curious about your thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/3 "2010-11-20T02:41:51Z")
I have been able to use as much as 10 mcg of [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) by itself, and the interesting thing is that when I started out, I couldn’t even use 2.5 mcg without having trouble. At 7.5 to 10 mcg doses, I tend to become irritable, and this suggests to me that P75 is something along the lines of a more refined “lighter” version of enone. I typically am directed to use 2.5 to 5 mcg of it at a time, and only rarely more. Super high value women seem to prefer 5 to 7.5 mcg of it, at least in my case. Only once has 10 mcg been recommended. Looking forward to reading more. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/4 "2010-11-20T05:00:23Z")
Found a nice post of good old Renny where he talks about his experiences with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) in various doses … In my eyes a must read ! > [@P75 P76 Torsion vs Tension](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-p76-torsion-vs-tension/19013): > > P75 has been without a doubt the toughest putative I’ve played with so far. Most difficult is the fact that it gives me a a very negative feeling of aggravation/frustration/agitation even in relatively small 2.5-7.5 mcg doses. This seems to level off and maybe even decrease as the dose rises to 12.5- 15 mcg. I haven’t gone higher frowning . It’s very hard for me to see effects on others separate from the self effect. There is a repellent effect on people but what makes it hard to quantify is … Pago ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/5 "2010-11-21T03:01:39Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Great report. Keep them coming. I’m not sure just how I missed this but it most likely got pushed down by other posts. So I’m BUMPING it cause its good. > > So were there any abreactions to the ten mcg? Did you just not notice them because you were so focused and because of the lack of self-talk? Sometimes I wonder if its not that they didn’t occur, but they are actually passed over because we are so focused and positive. Curious about your thoughts. Thanks Steve. At 10mcgs I have not noticed any abreactions, but at higher doses than that, I can see now I am now approaching a point where I need to mind my tongue. I am just saying what I am feeling and not caring in the least bit. I was just sitting here now and thinking about how today went at 20mcgs and I pretty much had zero boundaries. Will be compiling those reports here soon. I’m off the next 3 days and will be doing lots of catching up. As far as the self-talk is concerned you may be right. Because I have found moments when something would slip in, and my mind would be just like…“Hey back to work.” And then I’d go back to whatever I was doing and not really concern myself with it. At 20mcgs, things got a bit different. Once again I will report on that real soon. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/6 "2010-11-21T03:02:34Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I have been able to use as much as 10 mcg of P75 by itself, and the interesting thing is that when I started out, I couldn’t even use 2.5 mcg without having trouble. At 7.5 to 10 mcg doses, I tend to become irritable, and this suggests to me that P75 is something along the lines of a more refined “lighter” version of enone. I typically am directed to use 2.5 to 5 mcg of it at a time, and only rarely more. Super high value women seem to prefer 5 to 7.5 mcg of it, at least in my case. Only once has 10 mcg been recommended. > > Looking forward to reading more. I get irritable when I combine A314 plus [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/). I don’t know why. Someone else reported a similar issue. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/7 "2010-11-21T18:48:55Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > I get irritable when I combine A314 plus P75. I don’t know why. Someone else reported a similar issue. lol It was probably me. I have noticed that they seem to produce a “muddy” effect twhen used together. I avoid doing that because it just seems to be an overall waste of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), both for self effect and others. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/8 "2010-11-22T03:38:05Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > lol It was probably me. I have noticed that they seem to produce a “muddy” effect twhen used together. I avoid doing that because it just seems to be an overall waste of pheromones, both for self effect and others. I’d be willing to bet that the “muddy effect” is due to A314 and [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) having slightly different signals. A314 is dominate Alpha while P75 is social, “I don’t give a flying flip”, masculinity. Both are quite similar, but each one seems to increase aggression, especially A314 at high dosages. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/9 "2010-11-22T03:46:38Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > I’d be willing to bet that the “muddy effect” is due to A314 and P75 having slightly different signals. A314 is dominate Alpha while P75 is social, “I don’t give a flying flip”, masculinity. Both are quite similar, but each one seems to increase aggression, especially A314 at high dosages. Hmm Thanks K, Might try out some IJ + P75 ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/10 "2010-11-22T03:53:48Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Hmm > > Thanks K, > > Might try out some IJ + P75 If you do, PLEASE post the results because I’m interested in seeing them. The last time I tested androstenone with [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) I believe I came off a little too intimidating. But that was one test and I’m interested in seeing if the results would be different for someone else.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/11 "2010-11-22T04:18:03Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > If you do, PLEASE post the results because I’m interested in seeing them. The last time I tested androstenone with P75 I believe I came off a little too intimidating. But that was one test and I’m interested in seeing if the results would be different for someone else.🙂 Its a match made in heaven if you can tame the beast 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/12 "2010-11-22T04:25:41Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > If you do, PLEASE post the results because I’m interested in seeing them. The last time I tested androstenone with P75 I believe I came off a little too intimidating. But that was one test and I’m interested in seeing if the results would be different for someone else.🙂 This might get me in trouble, but what the heck, in the name of science! ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/13 "2010-11-22T15:39:54Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > This might get me in trouble, but what the heck, in the name of science! Ever seen an Elephant in “Must”? Make sure that you put all of your fragile valuables away first. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/14 "2010-12-08T17:47:11Z")
**[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) Testing Day2**: 5s [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) @ 2.5mcgs = 12.5 mcgs. **App Points:** [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) L,R,C Neck. 2x Chest **Venue:** Work / Starbucks **Application Time:** 6:00 am **Self-Effects:** Intense focus still there. No marked differences between 10mcgs and 12.5 As the dosage increases I become more and more playful and my humor becomes a bit more sarcastic and dark. Chalk it up to the “I don’t care” effect I guess. **Effects On Others:** There can be a fine line between respect and fear depending upon your mood. Co-Workers treated me just fine, but female co-manger (Native American 40’s) who’s very sensitive to “energy” and moods seemed to be watching me with a wary eye. It wasn’t as if I was going to go off, but there is that line that could be crossed at any moment. Customers seemed to react in the same way. Most would smile and accept whatever information I was giving them. I was the expert and could answer all their questions. But a few, most noticeably females in their mid to late 20’s would smile nervously. Younger females surprisingly enough seemed to almost get a kick out of being around me. (While going over my notes this seems to become even more prominent at higher doses) Why? Maybe its because I become even more playful, sarcastic and dark with my humor and it fits with that generations mindset. **Final Thoughts** : P75 right now has a number of uses for me. - It helps contain my obsessive thinking. - It’s great for status, a quick replacement for A314. A314 is smooth, whereas P75 gives you status with a hint of bad boy. - Puts a bit of swagger in your step, a nice little pep in your step. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/15 "2010-12-08T18:02:30Z")
Day 3’s and 4 testing at 6 and 7 sprays (15 and 17.5 mcgs) are a bit redundant so I skipped ahead to day 5 20mcgs **P75 Testing Day5** : 8s [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) @ 2.5mcgs = 20mcgs. **App Points:** Once again because of constant hand and dish washing all sprays are upper body. Neck, and hair region. So cloud is in my face at all times. **Venue:** Work / Starbucks **Application Time:** 7:00 am **Self-Effects:** uhm… yeah… this shit is gooooood. At 20mcgs I felt like John Travolta in the opening sequence to Saturday Night Fever when he’s strutting down the sidewalk. A sneaky little grin on my face and a twinkle in my eye…just don’t touch the hair. Interestingly enough, there was a transition from cocky with a bit of attitude, to just cocky and loving life. Maybe the vibe takes a bit of time to grow accustomed to, because I have experienced some aggravation when mixing with A314. It could also be that its purely state related. If I were to wake up in a bad mood that day I may carry that along with me, but so far so good, I’m in a good place a good state of mind. The obsessive thoughts are once again on vacation. That is not to say they don’t send a postcard saying “wish you were here,” every now and then. They sort of flicker in the deep dark regions of my subconscious somewhere and then I forget about them and go back to the business at hand. I guess you could cause this “Liquid presence.” Because that is one thing it helps you do, live in the present moment. **Effects On Others:** co-workers are treating me fine. The playful razzing my co-manager likes to do except on days I’m wearing A314 or other status inducing mones is once again not occurring. The banter is purely respectful and business related. This is a woman who loves to talk about her problems, and is constantly having some sort of drama going on. The conversation is usually her just bitching and moaning, but today she’s seeking advice. When she’s not talking, she’s being abnormally quiet and giving me plenty of space and I like that. She doesn’t have that wary look in her eye, no fear. Its that kind of feeling you get when you’re around someone important and you don’t wanna bother them with your trivial bull shit. **Final Thoughts:** I finished my testing at 20mcgs. I tend to find great results at smaller doses, but now I can see how I can modify things by increasing the dosage. Smaller dosages help with the OCD and give me a bit of status, while a larger dosage makes me king for a day. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/16 "2010-12-08T18:31:14Z")
Great report sir. Glad you took it all the way to 20mcgs. So do you have an overall summary? I noticed the playfulness also. I’m glad you pointed out the effects on different aged women. Where would you say your sweet spot is, or what dosage did you like the most? I think that as a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) p75 is great at 2.5- 5mcgs, however at around 7.5 mcgs the self effects and changes in personal body language are good enough to create major hits. As you get closer to 20mcg’s it seems to get harder to control yourself or even to know what you are about to do. ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-10mcgs-gonna-keep-upping-the-dose/43417/17 "2010-12-08T18:50:08Z")
very interesting observations gentleman…thats motivation for me to jack up my dosage higher and test it myself