# P75+ A314= Head turner **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 18, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853 "2010-09-18T13:28:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/1 "2010-09-18T13:28:52Z")
Here is my initial report that I pulled from my journal. Initial application 1 drop A314 to temples at 6:30 am, P75 @2.5 mcg around 10am. ( I ordered p75 not p74) Setting: Work, GNC, Target Self affects: First let me say that I’m sick. My throat hurts and I have drainage, but no coughing. So I’m not sure if my affects were accurate. I did notice an increased ability to focus. I found myself locking into sounds or sights. I got an instant swagger in my step. Effects on others: Let’s call this the head turning, gear changing, accelerator. It seems to have 2 distinct modes. I got some cool hits with this from women. I’m not sure about the guys yet. I don’t think I saw much of a difference. Hits: Went to Target around 12:00pm. Didn’t see anything obvious at first. Had a few women seem to end up around me a few times and kind of get in my way. On the way out the door I was walking behind a very attractive mom. I remember noticing how bad her walk was. I know I pay attention to the oddest thing. Anyway when we got out to the parking lot I walked up beside her to go a different direction and she looked over her shoulder and gave me a once over. When I got to my car I looked over at her and noticed that she was watching me not so discreetly. At around 3pm I went to GNC to get a smoothie. The smoothie chick K, that I mentioned in another post, was there. She watched me over her shoulder as I walked in. There was another young girl at the smoothie bar also. She was very friendly and giggly when I interacted with her, but as soon as I looked away she would get this lost look until I spoke to her again. She seemed to be a bit confused. K made my smoothie for me and began with the flirting. Leaning towards me. Fingers through hair. Hair flipping. I thought she was going to hurt herself. I definitely could have gotten her number even though I flashed my ring over and over again. She either didn’t notice or didn’t care. I think this [pheromone](https://a314.com/) may be a bit dangerous. No obvious hits from my wife yet. ---
**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/2 "2010-09-18T13:50:22Z")
Good report, Thanks Josie. you applied p75 on your neck? because i can confirm for you that it does increase focus but only when it is very close to my face(ie,. front of neck) ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/3 "2010-09-18T17:12:26Z")
nice report. i ve never used p75 but plan on getting some soon. glad to hear that it pairs well with a314. i’m curious to see if it works well with p74 . ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/4 "2010-09-18T17:49:05Z")
[P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is good stuff in very low dosages. Dancing Joker, catlord and I believe it to be anone 🙂 Whats your opinion? ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/5 "2010-09-18T21:32:55Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > P75 is good stuff in very low dosages. Dancing Joker, catlord and I believe it to be anone 🙂 > > Whats your opinion? This is definitely the common camp of thought for this putative. I remember Jas saying it’s most closely related to p79 although it exhibits so many similar characteristics of androstenone. Some things I’ve noticed personally about p75 1. highly attractive to the opposite sex - In small doses up to 5mcg this putative has potent attractive qualities 2. Confidence - I’ve noticed the self effects are potent as well. The ‘quieting’ of the inner voice while adding a very distinct ‘alpha’ feeling… confidence without the cockiness. Smooth. 3. ‘Sticky’ molecule - very similar to -none in that it sticks to the skin and can buildup can lead to OD quickly (self and external effects). Someone mentioned in a thread that it wasn’t until much later in the day after they’d been wearing [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) that they noticed more direct IOI and hits. Also, Andrew has a fantastic ‘slow burn’ mix that focuses on p75… 2 thoughts that come to mind from this are that the effect is cumulative with extended exposure and also that the molecule itself has an extremely slow dispersion rate after it comes in contact with the skin be it just the molecule’s nature or something that changes biochemically when it is sprayed upon the skin that causes it to diffuse so slowly. If either is true and follows in line with the anecdotal response then the actual mcg content in the air around you could have a HUGE impact no the level of effect you see in people. for example.. you spray 5mcg of p75 on you and it diffuses off the skin at .5 mcg per hour on average… after 2-3 hours you’re seeing 1-1.5 mcg in the air… after 4-5 you’re seeing 2-2.5… maybe after the cloud is that dispersed the uptake of the phero on whatever targets/subjects is more instantaneous and more immediate IOI are seen. In regards to the ‘slow burn’ aspect… it also ties in with this type of exposure as your specific target is being exposed to the p75 only at the rate at which it diffuses off the skin and this causes a cumulative attractive effect over the duration of exposure. 4. Social presence - As it ties in with #2… it gives a smooth and confident social presence. I’ve noticed that I am definitely more fluid in my interactions with people (maybe because of the confidence increase/quieting of the inner voice) and also it seems to accentuate my funny side. The confidence gives me the ability to just say what I want and own it to the point where I get a positive response from others. I really really really love the p75 and it’s an everyday type of product for me due to the self and external effects. The combo with a314 is absolutely fantatsic… strong alpha vibes with a little added kick. Awesome report and reps/thanks to Josie for sharing and a big thanks to Steve for commenting and unlocking the floodgates of my thoughts about this putative haha. Oh ya… I created a mutant mx292/mx353 version and replaced the -none with p75. I like it. A lot. It’s one of my everyday type mixes (along w/ my mutant version of K-train’s black fallout and the ‘everyday’ work mix that Andrew88877 and Warren have put up around here). ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/6 "2010-09-18T22:25:50Z")
I have experimented with both straight androstenone and [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), but I think I get more in self effects from -none. P75, in my opinion, is alot smoother so to speak. The effects are there but more “natural”. Definitely attractive and alpha, but it seems to me it doesn’t hit the same way -none hits. Which is a good thing and gives us some flexibility when wearing mixes. Personally, I think its related to -none, but do not think its -none. Jasmin already said its not AndrostAnone, so we can rule that out. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/7 "2010-09-18T22:30:45Z")
Well just to clarify, the auto-linker when you type in A-none shows up with the definition for E-none which is NOT the same and therefore not to be confused. It’s believed to be 30% more effective in the sexual chemistry of androstenone without the aggressive aspects also associated with androstenone. However it tends to be just as volatile and therefore why it can only be used in minute dosages. Where as a man my age (43) usually can get away with wearing more of E-none, with A-none I can still only wear minuscule amounts without the ghosting OD effect associated with heavy quantities of sexual mones. You can read an old discussion found in the Love-Scent Phero Library found here from 2008: [http://pherolibrary.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-16827.html](http://pherolibrary.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-16827.html) A thread started on Ptalk by sugarspice started in 2008 here: [AndrostAnone vs AndrostEnone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-vs-androstenone/10745) Journal of Chromatography A: [Volume 363, Issue 2](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=PublicationURL&_tockey=%23TOC%235248%231986%23996369997%23284512%23FLP%23&_cdi=5248&_pubType=J&view=c&_auth=y&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=acc6f63d70885fc1418ea0dbe10dd53d), 1986, Pages 293-302, back in 1986 did a study involving the differences as related to boar taint, but the article is now archived and thus there is a fee. I’ll see if I can’t dig up a copy and post if I can get permission. and finally a link from the governments pubmed discussing post operative olfactory studies using derivatives of 5 alpha-androst-16-en-3-one (androstEnone) such as 5 alpha-androstan-3-one (androstAnone) and DMCMC found here: [Differential responses to odorant analogs after re… [Physiol Behav. 2002] - PubMed result](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12127006). A quick search will reveal more, but I just wanted to clarify what I was saying since the autolinker is incorrect in linking 5 alpha-androstan-3-one as 5 alpha-androst-16-en-3-one which it is NOT 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/8 "2010-09-19T01:04:08Z")
I ius a small amount of [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) at work. \<.5 mcg. sloooow burn. Low dosage mones work gre3at at work over the long term. Less fun and more patience is required. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/9 "2010-09-19T11:35:13Z")
Well I have to admit that I don’t know enough about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) yet to say what it is. I’m also not sure about this whole slow burn thing either. What Reclipse says kind of makes sense, but I’m not sure about that. I have noticed the same effects while being outside for hours and I don’t think the cloud build up would be the same there. This is more like a change in the putative itself. I don’t notice a slow increase of hits over time. I notice a change in the strength of the hit after about 4-5 hours. Before the 5 hour mark all of the hits were subtle. Time exposure was around 5 mins before I noticed a hit. After the 5 hour mark the hits were very obvious from both young and older women and the hits were immediate. Is it possible that this molecule is breaking down at 4-5 hours into something else that creates more aggressive hits? Or breaking down into something that diffuses easier? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/10 "2010-09-19T15:41:25Z")
I’m not one to break down mones, but I swear Enone, -none’s kinfolk in a suit and tie, and not the deer skirt with the cave man club (-none), came to mind! 🆒 Subscribing for other thoughs on **[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)**. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/11 "2010-09-19T23:33:04Z")
still waiting for my p75 to arrive… Why are mixes and putatives taking so long these days? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/12 "2010-09-20T01:02:09Z")
**Initial application** 1 drop A314 to temples and 1 spray of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) 2.5mcg at 9am Reapplication of P75 2.5mcg at 5pm Setting: Home Self affects: Increased energy. A desire to get some things done. (I cleaned out my garage). And a loss of awareness for personal space. Effects on others: Oddly enough no one whose space I invaded male or female seemed to mind. They were all willing to let me into their interpersonal space. Women give big smiles and lots of IOI’s even initiate kino. I get lots of long direct eye contact, hair touching, and looked up and down. The reapplication doesn’t seem to help much other than the fact that it managed to irritate my wife. My children seem to listen to me a lot quicker. They are also more affectionate. ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/13 "2010-09-20T01:27:27Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > Is it possible that this molecule is breaking down at 4-5 hours into something else that creates more aggressive hits? This is another avenue of thought to ponder. thanks much! ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/14 "2010-09-20T15:36:39Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > I don’t notice a slow increase of hits over time. I notice a change in the strength of the hit after about 4-5 hours. > > Before the 5 hour mark all of the hits were subtle. Time exposure was around 5 mins before I noticed a hit. After the 5 hour mark the hits were very obvious from both young and older women and the hits were immediate. > > Is it possible that this molecule is breaking down at 4-5 hours into something else that creates more aggressive hits? Or breaking down into something that diffuses easier? Have you noticed such reaction on more than one occasion while using [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/). always the reactions came with 2.5 mcgs ? ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/15 "2010-09-21T00:17:44Z")
Josie, I think you might be onto something. One way to possibly test breakdown is to say spray some p75 on your wrists and then rub them vigorously together. It may not be an exact science but perhaps it can facilitate a breakdown with heat. I’m going to have to do some testing myself. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/16 "2010-09-21T12:17:11Z")
**Initial application** 1 drop A314 to temples and 2 sprays of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) 2.5mcg **Setting:** Work, Target ( I know I go there a lot), and grocery store **Self affects:** I have changed my view of the increased energy. I don’t actually think my energy is increasing. I think it’s my alertness that is increased. I am definitely more aware. My fellow mone coworker also said I had a flippant attitude. I reminded her of the guy from office space. She was mone free yesterday. I also had this big cheesy smile. **Effects on others:** So all of my IOI’s seem to have disappeared, which would coincide with testing from other people. At 5mcg’s I’m not getting much. I don’t know if anyone else here has had issues returning items to Target before. I had to return a product yesterday 4 hours after application. The lady at the counter actually started to give me a hard time about not having a receipt. I almost never get this kind of crap when wearing even 1 drop of A314 alone. I just looked at her and smiled without responding. She looked away quickly. She gave me cash back, which they almost never do from my experience. Didn’t notice much with customers there. I did notice that I watched customers a lot more closely. At around 5 hours after application I had a conversation with my mone coworker. She noticed a much more aggressive attitude. In some aspects more possessive. I actually had an image of me peeing on her pop into my mind to keep her ex-boyfriend from talking to her. She thought it was funny at first but then started to become annoyed with my attitude. The conversation happened over instant message and not in person. No other noticeable hits other than the respect hits I normally get when wearing A314. I noticed another change at around 8 hours after application. (Ok I’m not entirely sure about this one. It could be that I was just happy to be off of work.) I became a lot more cheerful. Had a good conversation and some light flirting at the grocery store. When I got home my kids were happy to see me. I got some good hits from my wife too. (Now again this could be coincidence. My wife does like me after all.) She was very attentive. Definitely wanted all of my attention. However my young children again listened very well when I sent them out of the room so I could talk to my wife. She was very affectionate and even a little sexual. (Important note here. My wife is a stay at home mom. She always complains that I never notice what she does during the day and I don’t acknowledge it. I noticed everything as soon as I walked in the house.) I also had a strong desire to play with my children. (I like playing with my kids. Quit reading into this stuff people. ) Anyway I played hard with them for a while. They were all over me. It was a great evening. Today I am wearing 3 sprays of P75. I know I should take breaks in between. I wanted to take it one more step. I am excited about the results so far. ---
**Author:** ![SinisterSam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sinistersam/32/407_2.png) [@SinisterSam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SinisterSam)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/17 "2010-09-21T20:22:51Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > ( I ordered p75 not p74) Nice report, I may just have to go order me some. How would you say it stacks up with p74? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/18 "2010-09-22T12:24:53Z")
Sinistersam, I have never tried P74. But I guess I need to try it. Yesterday was my last test. **Initial application** 1 drop A314 to temples and 3 sprays of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) 2.5mcg at 7:30am **Self effects:** : Deepest voice ever. I also talked a lot quieter. Got a lot of noise sensitivity. Had to turn my treble all the way down in the car. Lots of visual scanning and target locking. (Think airplain heads up display and missle target locking.) After 5 hours a lot of aggression very similar to none rage. Became irritable. **Effects on others** : With strangers I got some distancing. I went to Starbucks and while I was waiting for my coffee everyone else stood at least 4 feet away and in a line instead of milling around like usual. Someone else’s drink came up before mine and they wouldn’t come up and get it. 🙂 I had to move to the side first. Then she came up quickly and got back into line to wait for something else. Got some uneasiness from acquaintances. Everyone moved very quickly to get work done. I didn’t fall back into the standoffishness (is that a word?) that normally comes with A314. People wanted to talk to me. I still got flirting, but it was mild. The only blatant hit was around 12:30pm from my wife. I had to run home and help her with something. She gave me a huge kiss when she saw me and started to make out with me in front of my children. (that never happens) She was very affectionate and initiated more kissing and long hugs and body pressing when I was about to leave. I know what you are thinking. So what? Your wife likes you. But it’s not like that. This was out of character for her in front of our children. These were sexual advances from her. I had the feeling that I could have closed the door, since I couldn’t get into the house at first from her kissing me, then she would have let me have sex with her in the van. It was very very sexual. **Conclusion** P75 is good stuff. Is it currently in A314 at a very low concentration? I am still wondering about the 4-5 hour slow burn. I really believe it may actually be a breakdown of the molecule that causes it to become more sexual and change the hits. I I consistently get a deeper voice. Low doses seem to work the best for overall use. Reapplying doesn’t seem to be a good idea. The best mix for me was 1 A314 and 1 spray p75 @2.5mcg. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-a314-head-turner/41853/19 "2010-09-22T14:00:29Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Well just to clarify, the auto-linker when you type in A-none shows up with the definition for E-none which is NOT the same and therefore not to be confused. I noticed that too and I was wondering what was up. > [@Steve](#): > > It’s believed to be 30% more effective in the sexual chemistry of androstenone without the aggressive aspects also associated with androstenone. However it tends to be just as volatile and therefore why it can only be used in minute dosages. Where as a man my age (43) usually can get away with wearing more of E-none, with A-none I can still only wear minuscule amounts without the ghosting OD effect associated with heavy quantities of sexual mones. Same here - I can feel the differences in the self-effects.