# P75 after 20 minutes **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 27, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769 "2007-03-27T17:52:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/1 "2007-03-27T17:52:47Z")
my dosage says i have 12.5mu and its in a to-go. i spray, and after 20 minutes its already hitting me . i get the initial headrush that comes from new [pheromone](https://a314.com/) use, atleast for me. its a doozy. i find im aggravated if im not doing something and there is pressure above the bridge of my nose. that,my friends, has _never_ happened . its not uncomfortable, just weird. ha- its like someone is holding their finger on my third eye , its THAT strange. whats right there? a gland? pituitary? whatever, i feel it šŸ˜› i feel the urge to keep wrinkling my nose. ill post an hour down the line,see what happens . ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/2 "2007-03-27T17:59:49Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > my dosage says i have 12.5mu and its in a to-go. > > i spray, and after 20 minutes its already hitting me . > > i get the initial headrush that comes from new pheromone use, atleast for me. its a doozy. > > i find im aggravated if im not doing something and there is pressure above the bridge of my nose. that,my friends, has _never_ happened . > its not uncomfortable, just weird. ha- its like someone is holding their finger on my third eye , its THAT strange. whats right there? a gland? pituitary? whatever, i feel it šŸ˜› > > i feel the urge to keep wrinkling my nose. > > ill post an hour down the line,see what happens . VNO? šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/3 "2007-03-27T18:08:28Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > VNO? šŸ˜• i thought about that, but its so high up (but still in the sinus cavity i think) that i blew it off. its strong stuff, it isnt a familiar feeling. its all numb up in there though. the way i imagine botox,lol. i keep touching between my eyes to see if i can feel it yet šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/4 "2007-03-27T18:13:12Z")
One spray where? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/5 "2007-03-27T19:37:21Z")
i sprayed inside of my lower arms. im mentally hyper but my body is relaxed. im definatly flitting from subject to subject, in smaller doses iā€™ll bet this stuff is super social. its not the spacy feeling you get from anol, because my mind is goingā€¦ but priority and subject matter are definatly skewed, things i need to do dont feel as pressing. not a sexually inclined putative, from my view. on the phone with a SO and i didnt feel a stir. he was going in that direction,too butā€¦meh. _definatly_ not a dud, but i need to be out socially to get a handle on it. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/6 "2007-03-27T20:45:56Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > on the phone with a SO and i didnt feel a stir. šŸ˜® I thought you said you hadnā€™t dated in a long time! šŸ˜® All my hopes and dreams dashed to the ground. My trip to Florida canceled!ā˜¹ Iā€™m so hurt ā˜¹ See if I stalk you now!šŸ˜  šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒšŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/7 "2007-03-27T22:21:06Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > I thought you said you hadnā€™t dated in a long time! šŸ˜® > > All my hopes and dreams dashed to the ground. My trip to Florida canceled!ā˜¹ > > Iā€™m so hurt ā˜¹ > > See if I stalk you now!šŸ˜  > > šŸ˜ƒšŸ™„ ah hahaha, no no, my SO is from _another state all together_. havent seen him in 20 months. feel better? id hate to think i missed out on a chance to be stalked by one of the hottest _gentlemen_ on the board ā˜¹ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/8 "2007-03-27T22:26:26Z")
well its been hours now, and the effects have mellowed. less physical reaction, the same mental thought juggling. i think im getting good at it šŸ˜ƒ i had a rapport with this storage rental gal, i dont know if its the [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) or the MX134 at this point because i put the MX134 on before i left, but we talked for an hourā€¦over family. hmmm šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/9 "2007-03-27T22:36:50Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > ah hahaha, > no no, my SO is from _another state all together_. havent seen him in 20 months. > > feel better? > > id hate to think i missed out on a chance to be stalked by one of the hottest _gentlemen_ on the board ā˜¹ šŸ˜ƒ Cool!! Iā€™m rushing dowwn to the air port and getting my tickets now!! šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thalion)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/10 "2007-03-28T02:28:25Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > ah hahaha, > no no, my SO is from _another state all together_. havent seen him in 20 months. > > feel better? > > id hate to think i missed out on a chance to be stalked by one of the hottest _gentlemen_ on the board ā˜¹ šŸ˜ƒ Has it really been 20 months since weā€™ve seen each other? šŸ˜® ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/11 "2007-04-21T03:20:20Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i sprayed inside of my lower arms. > > im mentally hyper but my body is relaxed. > > im definatly flitting from subject to subject, in smaller doses iā€™ll bet this stuff is super social. > its not the spacy feeling you get from Alpha Androstenol, because my mind is goingā€¦ but priority and subject matter are definatly skewed, things i need to do dont feel as pressing. > > not a sexually inclined putative, from my view. > > on the phone with a SO and i didnt feel a stir. > he was going in that direction,too butā€¦meh. > > _definatly_ not a dud, but i need to be out socially to get a handle on it. Lor, any more thoughts on [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)? Did you try it socially? What effect does it have on you? I read past threads which suggested it was somewhat similar to A1/IFM - as in magnetism towards females and repels men/makes men feel ā€˜strangeā€™ā€¦ Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/12 "2007-04-21T13:10:06Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Lor, > any more thoughts on P75? Did you try it socially? What effect does it have on you? > > I read past threads which suggested it was somewhat similar to Androstadienone/Instant Female Magic - as in magnetism towards females and repels men/makes men feel ā€˜strangeā€™ā€¦ > > Visionary well, heres whats interesting,visionary- that infact may be true,but i dont respond to A1, whether straight or in IFM. i actually behave more like a man in that reguard, which would account for my experience with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/). i havent worn it socially yet except for to run errands, and the response wasnt big enough to post . what have your experiences been? ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2007, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/13 "2007-04-22T06:45:02Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > well, heres whats interesting,visionary- > > that infact may be true,but i dont respond to Androstadienone, whether straight or in Instant Female Magic. > i actually behave more like a man in that reguard, which would account for my experience with P75. > > i havent worn it socially yet except for to run errands, and the response wasnt big enough to post . > > what have your experiences been? Oh okay your an unusual case then Lorā€¦ I suppose you could try high doses of P75 (say 60 mcg) in all-female or mostly-female environments and see if it helps you keep on their good side ā€“ I read that you were having some success with IFM doing just that perhaps you could compare the two in some way in terms of their effects on the OTHER ladiesā€¦ So far P75 has been a little weaker for me than I expected. I have tried it a few times at 25 mcg and so far have seen a bit more friendliness and magnetism but definitely nothing like the consistently powerful positive responses I can get with IFM. OTOH I havenā€™t felt depressed or bad or on it as opposed to my negative reactions in that regard with IFM. I am going to be trying higher doses of P75 (say 60 mcg+) to see if I can get better reactions. I do get the feeling that like P78, this P75 does something but it just isnā€™t as strong a signal as the established [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)ā€¦ I would love to hear any more feedback on P75 from anyone (cā€™mon people a lot of you should have got it as a freebie so please share your experiences!). Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/14 "2007-04-24T10:26:38Z")
SwingerMDā€™s (mostly very positive) trials with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) are pasted in belowā€¦ > [@P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197/25): > > I just started testing out p75. My initial trial is here: [http://swingermd.pheromoneblogs.com/2006/04/01/punitive-pheromone-trials-p75-part-i/](http://swingermd.pheromoneblogs.com/2006/04/01/punitive-pheromone-trials-p75-part-i/) This one seems to get a lot of attention and approaches for me unlike p74. It also seems to repel males. -SwingerMD SwingerMD (April 1, 2006): "I just started testing out [p75](https://a314.com/product/p75/). My initial trial is here: [http://swingermd.pheromoneblogs.com/ā€¦ls-p75-part-i/](http://swingermd.pheromoneblogs.com/2006/04/01/punitive-pheromone-trials-p75-part-i/) This one seems to get a lot of attention and approaches for me unlike [p74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). It also seems to repel malesā€¦" > [@P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197/41): > > Hmm . . . p76 definately seems to be very potent. As for p75, at 60mcgs I was getting a lot of positive (follows asking me to dance) results. Perhaps maybe a tad too much since they wouldnā€™t let me rest. -SwingerMD SwingerMD (April 21, 2006): ā€œā€¦As for [p75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), at 60mcgs I was getting a lot of positive (follows asking me to dance) results. Perhaps maybe a tad too much since they wouldnā€™t let me restā€¦ā€ > [@P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197/46): > > For me A1, gives me such a nasty headache that I usually not in a very receptive mood when I wear it. [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) doesnā€™t effect me negatively at all (the other guys donā€™t seem to like it much). As for specific character to each: p74 ā€œInner connectionā€ p75 ā€œCenteredā€ p76 ā€œTense/ on edgeā€ p77 ā€œ?!ā€ p78 ā€œSpaceyā€ SwingerMD (April 24, 2006): ā€œā€¦For me [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/), gives me such a nasty headache that I usually not in a very receptive mood when I wear it. [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) doesnā€™t effect me negatively at all (the other guys donā€™t seem to like it much)ā€¦ā€ > [@P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197/49): > > It seems that way. Not sure how it works to repel other males without side effects on the (male) user. Anyhow so far my favorites are p74, p75, and p78. -SwingerMD SwingerMD (April 26, 2006): Originally Posted by **Homura83** _Hence [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is like [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) without ANY negative effects on the wearer and repels all else that is male,while making you the centre of female attraction._ ā€œIt seems that way. Not sure how it works to repel other males without side effects on the (male) userā€¦ā€ > [@New Oriental Pheromone Cologne?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-oriental-pheromone-cologne/322/13): > > Hmm . . . I was actually 1/2 joking about tossing in the putatives. After thinking about this a bit more I would like to have these putatives with your upcoming oriental fragarence: Mix of p74 and p75 - p75 has a very strong sense of ā€œmagnetisimā€ with the opposite (female) sex. Couple that with the very strong boyfriendish connection/empathy that p74 seems evoke, and you may have a very powerful mix. Of course arriving at the perfect ratio of the two (provided that the two are compatable aā€¦ SwingerMD (April 30, 2006): ā€œā€¦ [p75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) - [p75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) has a very strong sense of ā€œmagnetisimā€ with the opposite (female) sexā€¦ā€ > [@P75 ... Oi!!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/9): > > Interesting, BTW Iā€™m asian and perhaps my sweet spot for p75 seems to be at 60 mcg. Itā€™s comfy with me (doesnā€™t seem to neg effect me), attracts a lot of female attention (the followā€™s will not let me rest), and drives away the competiton. 8) -SwingerMD SwingerMD (May 4, 2006): "Interesting, BTW Iā€™m asian and perhaps my sweet spot for [p75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) seems to be at 60 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram). Itā€™s comfy with me (doesnā€™t seem to neg effect me), attracts a lot of female attention (the followā€™s will not let me rest), and drives away the competiton. 8)ā€¦" > [@Getting them to initiate - or, How about that CTTM?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-them-to-initiate-or-how-about-that-cttm/352/10): > > I have CTT2. Seems to work well once you get the conversation started. I agree with Josef that the most effective and potent conversation starter is a mix of eyes and smiles. Now, with that in mind I do think that a couple of the experimones have a lot of potential as conversation initiators. They are (in my opinion) p74, p75 and p78. For me it seems that all the women pratically appear out of nowhere with I have p75 and p78 (to a slightly lesser extent). -SwingerMD SwingerMD (June 4, 2006): ā€œā€¦For me it seems that all the women pratically appear out of nowhere with I have [p75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and [p78](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (to a slightly lesser extent)ā€¦ā€ > [@Getting them to initiate - or, How about that CTTM?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-them-to-initiate-or-how-about-that-cttm/352/12): > > Catlord17, For me p75 is one of my top pheros for getting follows to ask me to dance out on the floor (most expect guys to do the asking). As for p78 it is also one of the top for getting follows to ask me to dance. The main difference between the two of them is that with p78 it seems that there is also a empathic component to it. For example with p75 I pratically get ambushed/blindsided by women who get really into me (esp. those that I donā€™t know). Just this past weekend I had some woman ā€¦ SwingerMD (June 4, 2006): ā€œā€¦For me [p75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is one of my top pheros for getting follows to ask me to dance out on the floor (most expect guys to do the asking)ā€¦ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/15 "2007-04-24T13:52:35Z")
alright,Visionaryā€¦ your killing me. heres what i want to do- i have been having issues with LAM which is alphanol and cops. low dose of cops too, i might add. my experiment today was to add TAL to it and see if while running my errands i got any better reactions from the male gender. NOW im curiousā€¦ if i start out with LAMā€¦ and add TALā€¦ and throw in a [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) wildcardā€¦ this will be bizarre. TAL seems to be slightly authoritive,girly-type ballsey, LAM is light and slightly attractive, and P75 supposedly repels guys and magnetises womenā€¦ have i got the ultimate LESBO mix here? have i found a way to both attract men while keeping the gals from getting catty? have i null and voided both ? what dose of P75 do you recommend me try,Visionary ? im all ears šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/16 "2007-04-24T18:02:02Z")
P75 can be a wacko woozy I wore a nice shot of this to an improv class in combination with P78ā€¦ the mantra was ā€œdoesnā€™t follow instructionsā€ā€¦ the class itself became hilariously insubordinate, whatever the teacher asked of us, it was like we would spontaneouly do the oppositeā€¦ the most unruly teen juice I ever triedā€¦ even mature men were having ā€œauthority issuesā€, without the stewy pissiness on androstenone, almost a passive agressive screwing up for the sake of screwing up, all these older guys were acting like slightly obnoxious teens who didnā€™t want to be told how to behaveā€¦ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/17 "2007-04-24T18:13:57Z")
so if you intend to use P75, Iā€™d make it well buried in a ā€œnice mixā€ and a slow release substrateā€¦ P.S. for a good lingering vapor cloud, Jojoba Oil seems to be a solid choice, although it remains oilyā€¦ so put your pheromone-jojoba streak where it wonā€™t matter if it gets on clothingā€¦ Iā€™m playing around with Jojoba (a super stable naturally esterified oil)/ Monolaurin (a biologically OK waxy coconut fraction)/ C12-C15 alkyl benzoate (very light cosmetic ingredient, smooths well to skin, reduces greasy ā€œunctuousnessā€)ā€¦ anyway, a wee pinch of P75 probably gives that hint of ā€œwild teen guy exploding with hormonesā€ signalā€¦ which MAY trigger (not unwisely) a self protective, radius increasing response if used in excess or out of balanceā€¦ with a good offsetting of empathic -mones like P74, EST, Nols, dienols it may give a slightly goofy šŸ˜› outrageousness to the proceedingsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2007, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-after-20-minutes/2769/18 "2007-06-23T01:14:53Z")
Any more from the ladies on this one? How does it make you feel specifically at high doses (25 mcg+)? Visionary