# p75 and other mones

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-and-other-mones/57970>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 27, 2013, 8:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-and-other-mones/57970 "2013-01-27T08:47:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 8:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-and-other-mones/57970/1 "2013-01-27T08:47:18Z")

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Does anyone know if p75 self effects and effects on others are depressed with summer ammo as opposed to regular ammo?

I find myself almost beta with p75 summer ammo. But with IS AMMO p75 more charged.. Anyone else notice this?

Do you think p75 works better with summer ammo vs ammo or vica versa? If it works for both what is the difference (besides age of targets)

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**Author:** ![eibmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bc8723/32.png) [@eibmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eibmoz)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-and-other-mones/57970/2 "2013-01-29T18:27:42Z")

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I’m not surprised with your experience, same for me test summer ammo on its own or in mixes is too much beta feel.

[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a mix of erone (status), a-nol (social) / enone (sexual), each at 2.5 mcg = Masculine vibe, especially with P75 added.

Summer ammo is 2.5 mcg enone / TAA (IS without the 2 steering molecules) / P130.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-and-other-mones/57970/3 "2013-01-30T00:15:04Z")

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I’m also finding men are more likely to respect you with IS AMMO p75 on and still not treat you as beta but the age barrier is up a little.

I do feel more anxiety with IS AMMO p75 Io IH than with Summer ammo p75.

Around this younger girl I talk to she loves summer ammo p75.. It a relaxed vibe and I find I’m more likely to engage in better conversation. I just feel she responds to it better.

Still when she smiles a me its a not an I am deeply attracted to you smile its more a cute smile. When I wear IS AMMO p75 her smile almost creases her face its so big.

I guess changing up between summer ammo p75 and IS AMMO p75 IO IH is not bad bet for me.

People have said summer ammo p75 is not good for closing for sex. That might be true if your going after club girls and going for quick sex, but if your going for a relationship and sex after getting to know a woman on a more deeper level then summer ammo p75 may still do it.

Anyone get laid with just summer ammo p75 on?