# P75 Experiments

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 9, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817 "2009-05-09T17:47:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/1 "2009-05-09T17:47:57Z")

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I have been experimenting with a bottle of [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) that gives 1.25 mcg/spray and have discovered that P75 all by itself has good effects at 1.25, 2.5, and 3.75 mcg/spray. Effects appear to be markedly different depending on the race of the subject. The general populace seems to like 1.25 and 3.75 mcg a lot… hispanics seem to prefer 2.5 to 3.75 mcg and respond best so far from my testing at 2.5 mcg. Experiments are ongoing.

Almost forgot… self effects are good at all three doses, but seem to be most positive for me at 1.25 or 3.75 mcg/spray.3.75 mcg makes me very strong and powerfully present in a masculine sense.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/2 "2009-05-10T00:43:00Z")

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Today I wore 2.5 mcg of [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), applied 1.25 mcg at a time to each forearm. Effects are subtle at this dosage, but there is a sense of underlying force of personality and confidence. It is surprisingly powerful for how organic it is at this dosage level. No negative results at this level, either.

Calculator told me to use 2.5 mcg today for the meeting with my model. I was meeting her and her father (she’s 18 and Hispanic, and it’s important to respect family in such cases, if you want to continue working with the model).

Results were very much what the calculator suggested. Her father seemed slightly defensive at first, with crossed arms, but I was confident and in control of the situation, and as we continued he relaxed and became comfortable with me. This indicates that, as the calculator suggested, 2.5 mcg of P75 is a very powerful masculine signature - but it’s a very powerful dominant masculine signature. The meeting was held approximately 2 hours after application.

Honestly, I am surprised how powerful both P75 is, and how powerful a masculine and dominating presence it gives at such low dosages, but if you can balance it for the specific situation, it’s a lot like pushing it slightly too far, and then “recovering” the situation so that the end effect is that you have a very positive impact and result.

Needless to say, daddy is now comfortable with me, and I’ll be working with his (stunningly beautiful) daughter again. Now if only I had a makeup artist and an assistant…

P75 is good stuff.

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**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/3 "2009-05-10T01:17:20Z")

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Interesting , does it have an overbearing masculine smell to it like none or Androsterone?

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**Author:** ![ramon\_69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ramon_69/32/490_2.png) [@ramon\_69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ramon_69)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/4 "2009-05-10T01:33:42Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> I have been experimenting with a bottle of P75 that gives 1.25 mcg/spray and have discovered that P75 all by itself has good effects at 1.25, 2.5, and 3.75 mcg/spray

I’m just curious, but is your dosage of 1.25 mcg/spray correct?? I have a 5 mL bottle of [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) that gives 12.5 mcg/spray. So is it 1.25 or 12.5 mcg/spray?

Thank u catlord!

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/5 "2009-05-10T03:28:56Z")

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Nice reporting as usual Catlord. Thanks for all the experimenting and reporting you do.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/6 "2009-05-11T00:40:41Z")

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> [@m3turbo](#):
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> Interesting , does it have an overbearing masculine smell to it like none or Androsterone?

It appears to have no scent that I can detect…

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/7 "2009-05-11T00:41:55Z")

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> [@ramon\_69](#):
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> I’m just curious, but is your dosage of 1.25 mcg/spray correct?? I have a 5 mL bottle of P75 that gives 12.5 mcg/spray. So is it 1.25 or 12.5 mcg/spray?
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> Thank u catlord!

I special ordered a bottle that delivers 0.500 mcg/spray, but the lowest they could go was 1.25 mcg/spray. For me, 10 mcg is very bad, and even 5 mcg is a negative effect on me.

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**Author:** ![perronec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perronec/32/1280_2.png) [@perronec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/perronec)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/8 "2009-05-11T11:03:52Z")

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any experience with dose appropriateness with asians? does it irk them like none does or does it seem to pass under the radar?

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**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/9 "2009-05-11T20:20:13Z")

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Sounds good . I have had some great luck with P79 mixes in the past would you compare [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) to P79?

thanks

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/10 "2009-05-13T16:16:04Z")

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> [@perronec](#):
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> any experience with dose appropriateness with asians? does it irk them like none does or does it seem to pass under the radar?

No contact with Asians. Sorry. It’s white, black, or hispanic here 99% of the time.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/11 "2009-05-13T16:28:30Z")

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> [@m3turbo](#):
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> Sounds good . I have had some great luck with P79 mixes in the past would you compare P75 to P79?
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> thanks

P79 is like baby blue or powder blue to me. [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is getting into black. There really is no comparison. They are entirely different, in my experience.

P75 is fairly cut and dried, black and white, solid, grounded, unshakeable man in the right doses. Confident, dominant (or the equal of anyone else, at least). In fact it is unthinkingly confident.

The night of the day I wore it last (the 2.5 from meeting with my model) I went out to do a night shot of the Roosevelt Bridge in Stuart. Not only did I nail almost every one of the 16 shots I took, but I happened to meet the president of a small local energy company and was offered a job on the spot shooting their product photography because he was so impressed with me, and my _can do_ attitude.

Literally… there is nothing I can’t do when I wear the right dose of P75. And any other thoughts are just faint horizon. You want me to shoot product photography for a waste heat generator that will be used in multi-million dollar worldwide advertising campaigns? Bring it on. I can do it. No sweat.

I really can, too, but I don’t always feel that way. lol P75 makes that doubt go away.

Now keep in mind that P75 affects me differently than it affects other people. Revivia, for instance, can wear several times what I can wear, and notices no self effects, while the dose he can wear would have me sitting in a chair ignoring the world, feeling drugged out.

So what it does to me, may not be what it does to you. Don’t take my word as gospel truth, because it may be true for me, and not you. Test it for yourself first.

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/12 "2009-05-13T17:24:52Z")

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It sounds from this (and from the other reports I’ve read) that p75 is like Anone on steroids.

I should imagine Revivia is immune from Anone self effects along with p75? I get the powerhouse, confidence self effects from about 7.5mcg of anone, shame my sweet spot is closer to 5mcg. 7.5mcg is too edgey, borderline OD. Does unbuffered p75 have any of the anone rawness?

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**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/13 "2009-05-13T19:40:33Z")

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This thread is extremely helpful, thanks Catlord.

I just got some [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and used it not having any idea what it was supposed to do.

It made me feel like god, and I couldn’t figure out why. Drove through ridiculously bad traffic in the mountains in 90 degree weather with no air conditioning and I felt so cool and composed the whole time.

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/14 "2009-05-13T21:03:46Z")

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I would love to test some [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), and am interested in trading if anyone wants to decant and test around.

PM me.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/15 "2009-05-14T16:31:38Z")

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> [@WildFlower](#):
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> It sounds from this (and from the other reports I’ve read) that p75 is like Anone on steroids.
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> I should imagine Revivia is immune from Anone self effects along with p75? I get the powerhouse, confidence self effects from about 7.5mcg of anone, shame my sweet spot is closer to 5mcg. 7.5mcg is too edgey, borderline OD. Does unbuffered p75 have any of the anone rawness?

To me, it seems to have a certain rawness, but not in the same direction as enone, for the most part.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/16 "2009-05-14T16:58:27Z")

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Yesterday, something went horribly wrong. Even before I applied the P75, although I didn’t yet know it.

I use my calculator to do a daily pheromone optimization. It helps me choose the best dosage and choice of pheromone(s) to wear. More good results. I like it.

So yesterday the calculator indicated that I would have a better result than otherwise if I wore 2.5 mcg of P75 again.

This is the first time in memory that things did not go the way the calculator told me they would concerning the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). I applied 2.5 mcg and some of the Green Irish Tweed that Revivia sent me, which I have come to appreciate more over time. But the results I was expecting did not show up.

I noticed that I was irritable. More than normal, given my level of sleep. I become very irritable if I haven’t had enough sleep. Lately, I have been staying up later than I should, but I also sleep until I am ready to wake up. Why I was tired still is beyond me.

The first half of the day I was becoming more and more irritable, as if the effects were cumulative faster than the irritation was wearing off. There was one point where I was attempting to explain a theory of mine to someone, and they kept insisting on something that made no sense. Of course it made no sense, they obviously didn’t understand what I was saying. But this REALLY pissed me off. I didn’t blow up, but it took me 30 minutes to calm down enough to explain it to her so she did. (She’s one of those rigid thinking jump-to-conclusions knows-it-all even if she doesn’t types, and that irritates the hell out of me, but normally I can just blow it off as boneheadedness.)

Then I went to get some sea shells for a photographic project I was planning. A series of exotic shells against a black backdrop. Simple, elegant, and something that will sell as artwork to a lot of people. But my debit card was declined. Now the shells came to $7 and I had $15 in that account when I left the house. It was my paypal card… so it came as no surprise that someone had charged me for something in the meantime. But the kicker is… _having my card declined did not embarass me._ Normally I’d have been mortified.

I had a couple of errands to run. It was all I could do to suffer through the first one, which was a low grade irritation, and the second one had me majorly pissed by the end of ten minutes. The objective: enter the drug store and buy two quarts of ice cream and a poster board. Somehow I even bought the wrong ice cream. Wow.

I got home to discover that my first joint test on a theory that has been holding up nicely under private testing had completely failed. I mean statistically significant in the other direction. Instead of 90% accurate, as it usually is, it was 90% wrong. I don’t know what happened, but the only thing I can think of is that I had the base and the comparioson variables reversed… otherwise it should not have been a statistically significant failure.

My second test of the theory, which I was there to run myself under strict controls, also failed inexplicably… and that was followed by doing the photography of the shells, which was literally back breaking work, because I was shooting them straight down from underneath the tripod… and after shooting and re-shooting, I had nothing but more reasons to shoot again. Exposure, noise, lack of critical sharpness… I forgot about diffraction unsharpening at f/32. Sigh.

But all day I was more irritable and frustrated than usual. I think these things would have gone wrong regardless, but I don’t think I would have been so irritable and negative. I was very depressed by the end of the night, and not even 35 mcg of TAA was helping it.

Not sure what to make of that… there was no confidence like the previous time I ran it at 2.5 mcg. Just this irritation.

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/17 "2009-05-14T17:09:30Z")

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Could p75 possibly be “sticky?” I don’t know what sort of bathing procedures you use, but could you have possibly been wearing far more than 2.5 mcg?

What “buffers” are you thinking of using p75 with?

Regarding the other weirdness of your day - I have often wondered if the pheros we use effect us/our world in a more… esoteric way.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/18 "2009-05-14T19:51:40Z")

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> [@Tigerlilly](#):
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> Could p75 possibly be “sticky?” I don’t know what sort of bathing procedures you use, but could you have possibly been wearing far more than 2.5 mcg?
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> What “buffers” are you thinking of using p75 with?
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> Regarding the other weirdness of your day - I have often wondered if the pheros we use effect us/our world in a more… esoteric way.

lol You’re hilarious. “what sort of bathing procedures you use”.

The thing is… the calculator seems to account for the “leftovers” automatically. Not sure how… but it does. Or it has in the past… and as for leftovers, it was several days between applications. Not even androstenone is _that_ sticky… and the showers I had, well… you get the point. So I dunno what happened to my calculator yesterday, but it t’wern’t werkin.

I know P86 is a likely good candidate for buffering P75. Beyond that I haven’t given it much thought, since I have not got plans to play with P75 in the near future. Until, at least, I can verify the calculator is working again.

Pheromones definitely have a more subtle and unusual effect on us than we might think at first glance.

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**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/19 "2009-05-14T19:57:51Z")

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> [@Tigerlilly](#):
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> Could p75 possibly be “sticky?” I don’t know what sort of bathing procedures you use, but could you have possibly been wearing far more than 2.5 mcg?
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> What “buffers” are you thinking of using p75 with?
> 
> Regarding the other weirdness of your day - I have often wondered if the pheros we use effect us/our world in a more… esoteric way.

I had the same self-effects the first time using P75 the other day. I was wearing 2.5 mcg, so there was definitely no buildup since I’d never worn it before, AND I had gone a few days without wearing any pheromones before and also have a good scrubbing habit in the shower.

Seems that P75 has to be dosed extremely carefully … I’ll be diluting to 1.25 to try again.

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-experiments/28817/20 "2009-05-14T21:30:36Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> The thing is… the calculator seems to account for the “leftovers” automatically.

“Calculator” = “Sorcerers Crystal Ball”

The secret is out! 😃

(Or Hugh Heffner’s ball… Or! _gasp_ Lance Armstrong’s! Panty Scorcher mix is explained! 😉 )

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