# P75 is a Lady Killer! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 1, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517 "2009-12-01T15:31:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 1:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/61 "2010-09-04T13:17:24Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Let me post a gentle but important reminder here… (and feel free to repost this/quote this/sticky this/etc) > > If you’re trying to compare your experiences with P75 to something you bought elsewhere, please carefully consider your other source. > > Unless that source’s name is Pherin, EROX, Organon Biosciences, Merck, LaCroy Pharmaceuticals, Sigma-Aldrich, Athena Institute, Dr. George Dodd, AromaSciences, James Kohl, or of course, us, I’d seriously think about the nature of your source. Please consider that you may have gotten something else _labeled as_ androstanone. > > Most other pheromone companies will tell and sell you just about anything to make a sale, just like most penis extension scams. Aside from a few key companies (that don’t seem to make as much headway as the scammers since we won’t lie our way to success), it’s an industry literally full of convicted felons, sociopaths and plain ol’ nutjobs. > > When we started, we had lots of problems with this. Back before we settled on doing the bulk of our business with two of the most legitimate American labs (and settling in extra comfy with one), we were taken a lot, too. > > Michael had done some work with a company that manufactured Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw’s formulas (which still kick ass, btw!) They were quite finicky about chemical quality, and he much about the chemical industry and the difference between a good copy of a chemical and a bad one. > > Durk & Sandy’s products go over the top quality-wise. They use Vitamin C from Hoffman-LaRoche, amino acids from Anjinomoto, etc. Very expensive suppliers, but that’s why their seemingly innocuous vitamin formulas do things that no one’s else’s do even though the “Ingredients” label is similar. > > Look at ingredients in this: > [Blast, 600 grams powder](http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item01008/Blast.html) > > Looks “normal”, right? Try some a few times (following the directions, of course), then tell me it’s normal. _It’s not normal._ 180 degrees from Centrum! 🙂 > > A cheap vitamin C from China or India is completely different than the very clean vitamin C from Hoffman-Laroche or Sandoz. > > In Germany, you have to get many vitamins by prescription. This almost makes sense considering that the many of the most quality oriented vitamin suppliers are in Germany and Switzerland. Pharmaceutical grade vitamins have a very pronounced effect compared to what usually gets sold to us in America. > > When the Androtics research project started, we didn’t know who all the best suppliers were for the types of chemicals we wanted. It wasn’t as straightforward as it was in nutrition, so we tried a _lot_. We had to kiss a lot of frogs along the way, and immerse ourselves in due diligence. > > To verify that we got what we paid for (and that it was good quality) we’d buy “standards” from one of the well known academic labs, and then send our sample (“sample” is what they call the commercial synthesis) along with a standard (the really pure chemical) to an analytical testing laboratory like [InterTek Caleb Brett](http://intertek-cb.com). > > Intertek would then compare the two using HPLC and other analytical methods, and tell us how “pure” our sample was. > > Some of the providers put something _other than what was sold to us_ (intentional mislabeling fraud) in bag or bottle. Purity was 0%. > > Some shipped authentic, but extremely impure chemicals. > > Many suppliers mixed things together, tainting one chemical with another, sort of like how drug dealers “cut coke” with baking soda and other cheap diluents. This should give an idea of what kind of “companies” (more like little crime families) rule the so-called “pheromone industry”. > > Since testing cost so much money, and buying lots of bunk chemicals seemed to waste more time and money than anything, we look at the “total cost” of getting a good batch and decided… to hell with it, that’s too much and too much money to just work around fraud and sloth. Instead, we’ll simply pay a premium in the first place and get good stuff from the people who provide the standards! > > That’s how to we got to where we are. By seeing how expensive “cheap” could be, and becoming chemical snobs. That allowed us to stop messing around with crap, and actually get down to real work. It also made dosing possible, another Androtics first. You can’t dose impure crap! > > Well, I guess you could dose crap… but it’d be awfully messy 😛 This post is evidence of why I chose to purchase from this company and will continue to do so. I researched pheromones before I decided on settling here and making my purchases and even then, I spent time on the boards reading reviews and reports from users. Spend any amount of time here and you can tell this company is about building something along with their bank accounts, and the users while they sometimes sound like they’re drinking the kool-aid, quite honestly aren’t. They’re just really happy about the results they are seeing from the product and how the company selling them the product takes care of them. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/62 "2010-09-04T23:49:45Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Let me post a gentle but important reminder here… (and feel free to repost this/quote this/sticky this/etc) > > If you’re trying to compare your experiences with P75 to something you bought elsewhere, please carefully consider your other source. > > Unless that source’s name is Pherin, EROX, Organon Biosciences, Merck, LaCroy Pharmaceuticals, Sigma-Aldrich, Athena Institute, Dr. George Dodd, AromaSciences, James Kohl, or of course, us, I’d seriously think about the nature of your source. Please consider that you may have gotten something else _labeled as_ androstanone. The company’s name is Androtics Direct… I don’t buy single pheromones from anyone else but AD. Well, one time I got NPA from LS, but that’s it. =/ ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/63 "2010-09-04T23:57:29Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > I may not be a chemical structure expert, but from the molecule name, molecular weight, and the little Vander Waals 3d visualization, P75 looks like it’s pretty far from AndrostA and AndrostE anything. 🙂 > > There _is_ also the standard of androstanone our ExperiMone series, and P75 isn’t it. > > P75 is most chemically related to P79. Looks like my guess was incorrect. Can’t guess em all right, lol. I haven’t used [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) or -anone as long as I would have liked, but for me, that’s what it felt most like. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/64 "2010-10-26T15:29:46Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > I may not be a chemical structure expert, but from the molecule name, molecular weight, and the little Vander Waals 3d visualization, P75 looks like it’s pretty far from AndrostA and AndrostE anything. 🙂 > > There _is_ also the standard of androstanone our ExperiMone series, and P75 isn’t it. > > P75 is most chemically related to P79. I guess everyone missed this before. Did you say that we do have standard androstanone in the Experimone series? We have eliminated [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) and thereby eliminated P79. I’m still very impressed with P75. I tested for a while in September. I pulled it out again this past weekend. It never ceases to amaze me. The respect hits, the self effects, and the effects on others completely blows my mind. It’s so raw. I’m still very curious about the 4 to 5 hour delay. It would be cool to know when or if this putative is naturally produced in the body. I’m curious as to what it is actually communicating. The heightened sense of awareness makes me wonder if it has something to do with the “flight or fight” response. If it’s chemically similar to P79, which appears from my test to be related to spontaneity and excitement, then this would make sense. Has anyone tested P79 and P75 together? I have both. Maybe I will give it a go. ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/65 "2010-10-26T21:05:56Z")
> [@JosieW](#): > > I guess everyone missed this before. Did you say that we do have standard androstanone in the Experimone series? We have eliminated P75 and thereby eliminated P79. I was wondering about that as well. The way Jasmin’s post is worded makes me think she either accidentally left out a word or made a typo, unless I’m just not reading it correctly. As for the latter bit, hurrah for logic! (Assuming the initial assumption is correct, of course.) > [@JosieW](#): > > Has anyone tested P79 and P75 together? I have both. Maybe I will give it a go. I’ve also been thinking about doing this. I have the [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)-79 test pack so I could definitely give it a shot. Want to try that combo for a few days and then compare results? I’m wondering what ratios would be best, as the test packs are dosed at 5mcg/spray but almost every report I’ve ever read on P75 has implied or directly stated that the optimum dose is between 1.25 and 3.75mcg. Of course, this is all about experimentation, so I’m fine going a bit over for the first few tests. If I have problems, I’ll dilute or buy a 30mL bottle at 2.5mcg to continue testing. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/66 "2010-10-27T00:53:45Z")
Sounds like a plan. I have p75 in 2.5mcgs and p79 in 5mcgs. I will test 1 to 1 first then 1 to 2. Then 2 to 1 and 2 to 2. That should help me discern what the ratios will look like. However I’m sure p79 will be higher. I will keep notes offline for now until I’m done testing. ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/67 "2010-10-27T01:30:43Z")
I’ll do the best I can with my current materials, although they will likely be more like 1:x, to keep P75 low. I might try 2:2 or 2:3. I’ll make sure to keep my reports offline as well. I look forward to hearing your results when this is all done. I would also like to try combinations of those two with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), which I believe has already been done a few times. Looks promising, though. ---
**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/68 "2011-02-07T22:41:39Z")
How worksafe is [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2011, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/69 "2011-02-08T01:23:57Z")
Try it. I’ve done it, didn’t see any negative reactions really ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/70 "2011-02-10T01:31:39Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I have been playing with P75 lately, by itself. I have reported on this stuff before, but after these tests, I am going to be using it a lot more. > > P75 has a surprisingly potent masculine signature. In fact I dare say that anything beyond around 5 mcg is OD. But at 2.5 and 5.0 mcg, alone, this P has a wonderous effect on the ladies! > > It isn’t a grab them by the back of the head and pull their hair and make them beg for it RIGHT NOW! kinda mone… it’s a get-her-hot-and-wet-and-trying-to-hide-it-IF-she-notices-herself-while-she-opens-up-and-starts-discovering-this-sudden-undeniable-passionate-arousal-and-attraction-to-you type mone. > > I have seen it have this effect on women who were utterly uninterested previously, married and decidedly not looking, and especially Hispanic. > > 2.5 mcg works well, especially in close quarters. 5.0 mcg will be overkill for some women, and in fact it makes me a little loopy to wear 5 mcg. But HO-LEE-COW, give it 2-4 hours of exposure and watch out. Especially if you start pursuing her in any way. Do you think p75 still is a lady killer? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/71 "2011-02-10T01:38:33Z")
Reading what Jas wrote about p79 and p75 and -Anone, I wonder if p79 is the REAL -anone… [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) might be a closer cousin or derivative of -anone, which is p79?!?!? ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/72 "2011-02-10T03:58:06Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > It isn’t a grab them by the back of the head and pull their hair and make them beg for it RIGHT NOW! kinda mone… it’s a get-her-hot-and-wet-and-trying-to-hide-it-IF-she-notices-herself-while-she-opens-up-and-starts-discovering-this-sudden-undeniable-passionate-arousal-and-attraction-to-you type mone. Cant agree with you more .. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/73 "2011-02-11T00:42:29Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I have been playing with P75 lately, by itself. I have reported on this stuff before, but after these tests, I am going to be using it a lot more. > > P75 has a surprisingly potent masculine signature. In fact I dare say that anything beyond around 5 mcg is OD. But at 2.5 and 5.0 mcg, alone, this P has a wonderous effect on the ladies! > > It isn’t a grab them by the back of the head and pull their hair and make them beg for it RIGHT NOW! kinda mone… it’s a get-her-hot-and-wet-and-trying-to-hide-it-IF-she-notices-herself-while-she-opens-up-and-starts-discovering-this-sudden-undeniable-passionate-arousal-and-attraction-to-you type mone. > > I have seen it have this effect on women who were utterly uninterested previously, married and decidedly not looking, and especially Hispanic. > > 2.5 mcg works well, especially in close quarters. 5.0 mcg will be overkill for some women, and in fact it makes me a little loopy to wear 5 mcg. **But HO-LEE-COW, give it 2-4 hours of exposure and watch out. Especially if you start pursuing her in any way**. This is essentially seldom useful mone. Who has 2-4 hrs to wait to get effects? Most people don’t have that luxury when first meeting people or even on early meetings or at work. Any mone that takes more than 5-10 min to kick in is worthless. BTW can you tell me what SCENT you ordered that made this mone so worthwhile to you? Maybe it was the scent. Also what age where these people ? dsouza ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/74 "2011-02-11T00:54:24Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > This is essentially seldom useful mone. Who has 2-4 hrs to wait to get effects? dsouza You ever been on a date that last longer than 2 hours? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/75 "2011-02-11T01:35:10Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > I may not be a chemical structure expert, but from the molecule name, molecular weight, and the little Vander Waals 3d visualization, P75 looks like it’s pretty far from AndrostA and AndrostE anything. 🙂 > > There _is_ also the standard of androstanone our ExperiMone series, and P75 isn’t it. > > P75 is most chemically related to P79. > [@CoolKat](#): > > Reading what Jas wrote about p79 and p75 and -Anone, I wonder if > p79 is the REAL -anone… > P75 might be a closer cousin or derivative of -anone, which is p79?!?!? Please know what you’re talking about before positing CoolKat > [@Jasmin](#): > > I may not be a chemical structure expert, but from the molecule name, molecular weight, and the little Vander Waals 3d visualization, P75 looks like it’s pretty far from AndrostA and AndrostE anything. 🙂 > > There _is_ also the standard of androstanone our ExperiMone series, and P75 isn’t it. > > P75 is most chemically related to P79. Edit: > **[Experimental Human Pheromones - Pheromone Labs](https://pheromonelabs.com/)** AndrostENONE is already being sold Hence P79 is not AndrostENONE. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/76 "2011-02-11T01:58:34Z")
> [@Blacky\_Chan](#): > > You ever been on a date that last longer than 2 hours? Yes but generally 3-4 hrs is too long to wait.. its like reeling in a fish. You may catch one but who has the patience and so much can go wrong before that time comes. dsouza ---
**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/77 "2011-02-11T02:37:30Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Any mone that takes more than 5-10 min to kick in is worthless. Seems to me a slow-burning pheromone like this could be an excellent compliment to some of the faster-acting but shallower molecules. Or, it could be used as a slow wick for a less overtly attraction-focused mix – for example a smooth, high-status androsterone mix. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/78 "2011-02-11T03:31:14Z")
3-4 hr waiting period can’t be feasible. Does he mean 3-4 hrs till a woman exposed is soaking wet? Does he mean 3-4 hrs till the mix on ones body kicks in? And what about the confidence and deepening of voice, how long does that take to kick in? If at least the latter kicks in right away that would buy you some time to keep a woman in your presence long enough to notice other effects from the p75. I basically just acquired nighttime work. Consequently daytime is the only time I have to meet people and most are busy working unless they’re on lunch. A mix or standalone for pickup, brief lunch and then some action all within 1-2 hrs would be needed on most situations. Right now ammo has been a complete dud for me. A314 works wonders for my confidence and gets me respect and trust and I use it with shine. But its standoffish and not sexual. To take things to a new level I would have to use tuth in there or edge. I hear a314 allows one to wear more edge without ODing. The old standby from AD has always been A314, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/),and TUTH. I wonder if this would beat the pants of p75 alone? p75 sounds like something used use with a girlfriend spending a whole day or night together. But what about picking up new chicks? They won’t give you the luxury of flirting for the date with them for 4 hrs straight. Even at work its unlikely you will be in their presence for 4 hrs straight without them walking away to other people. Anyone tried IS, A314, and edge together? Does this go well for taking things to physical level with brief exposure? Would the IS screw up the edges vibe? Edge SOE or Edge Chikara, or Edge by itself has always been the most common mixes. Really wanna learn more about this p75 but it seems impractical. So what if women get wet and hot and bothered… first they have to say yet to a date and you don’t have 4 hrs in their presence to ask them. dsouza ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/79 "2011-02-11T03:38:27Z")
It cant be broken down so easily like that man. I really would have to tell you to try it first before you go talking about the 3-4 hour thing. It really depends on the person, context, and your general social dynamic skill set. Having the right mix is a small portion of what you need for success unless you manage to find the elusive “no effort and I still got my way” mixes that some have claimed to have on certain occasions. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2011, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517/80 "2011-02-11T06:18:20Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > 3-4 hr waiting period can’t be feasible. Does he mean 3-4 hrs till a woman exposed is soaking wet? Does he mean 3-4 hrs till the mix on ones body kicks in? > > And what about the confidence and deepening of voice, how long does that take to kick in? > > If at least the latter kicks in right away that would buy you some time to keep a woman in your presence long enough to notice other effects from the p75. > > I basically just acquired nighttime work. Consequently daytime is the only time I have to meet people and most are busy working unless they’re on lunch. > > A mix or standalone for pickup, brief lunch and then some action all within 1-2 hrs would be needed on most situations. > > Right now ammo has been a complete dud for me. A314 works wonders for my confidence and gets me respect and trust and I use it with shine. But its standoffish and not sexual. > > To take things to a new level I would have to use tuth in there or edge. I hear a314 allows one to wear more edge without ODing. > > The old standby from AD has always been A314, Instant Shine,and TUTH. I wonder if this would beat the pants of p75 alone? > > p75 sounds like something used use with a girlfriend spending a whole day or night together. But what about picking up new chicks? They won’t give you the luxury of flirting for the date with them for 4 hrs straight. Even at work its unlikely you will be in their presence for 4 hrs straight without them walking away to other people. > > Anyone tried IS, A314, and edge together? Does this go well for taking things to physical level with brief exposure? Would the IS screw up the edges vibe? Edge SOE or Edge Chikara, or Edge by itself has always been the most common mixes. > > Really wanna learn more about this p75 but it seems impractical. > > So what if women get wet and hot and bothered… first they have to say yet to a date and you don’t have 4 hrs in their presence to ask them. > > dsouza Different body chemistry and different results. However, CL’s come up with some awesome mixes, and IME, the slow burn ones just work out the best. things like UF are awesome, but the quality girls I’ve hooked up with came with slower acting mixes. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-is-a-lady-killer/34517.md?page=5)