# P75 ... Oi!!!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 2, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328 "2006-05-02T02:58:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/1 "2006-05-02T02:58:19Z")

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I’ve been trying [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) since Friday. The first time I applied P75 to my skin, I had a sensation similar to a none rush (slight pounding in my head, boost in energy, increase in visual acuity), and that was only one drop of a mix with P75! 😮 During my tests with mixes using P75, I’ve experienced more head rushes, as if there were a weight bearing down on my head and shoulders.

On Sunday, I used a total of ~150 mcg over the course of 4 hours. I woke up Monday morning with serious light headedness and slight dizziness. It felt as if my perception were visually distorted, but while I was disoriented physically, my mind was clear and actually focused. It also felt as if I had a strange headache that lasted throughout the day.

Has anyone else experienced this? If P75 causes disorientation or headaches in men, I can see how it would drive men away like someone mentioned previously.

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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/2 "2006-05-02T14:46:46Z")

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Ahhhh… beginners luck…

Initial exposure to new [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/)_has the potential_ to feel unsettling… sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t. remember that you are in the maximum exposure zone. Normally the pherobrain adapts rapidly and you will soon feel almost nothing while others are responding with greater intensity. Then you will need to make another adjustment when you become the “hardhead” and they are the sensitive butterflies…

When I was first exposed to concentrated TAH, lovely stuff BTW, I thought damn, this is wicked element, man… then TAH found its way into my repertoire and it gives me some nice sensory enhancement without the overstim reaction…

I rather wish the nice chemists at Androtics would sell a product along the lines of A314 minus the mones, a neutral binder-fixative-slow release additive… something not too blamed hydrophobic so we can wash it off without consuming a quarter bar of soap in the process…

Dipropylene or Dibutylene Glycol, combined with Squalene (most closely resembles skin oils and probably favorably facilitates linear diffusion rates, Dimethicone for spreadability and “silky texture” on skin… Hint A314 in excess can feel too sticky-greasy… needs the dryer touch of added silicone… market the product over the website as phero binder skin moisturizer… then we, the end users, could adjust for fast versus slow release and not be hit over the head with a overly strong first blast.

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**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/3 "2006-05-02T15:29:31Z")

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Just received mine today.The brown bottle had ‘sweat’ quite alot after being put at the Fed Ex delivery centre over the long mayday weekend(Sat,Sun,Mon).☹  
Nope no headaches whatsoever,women were more friendly,got minor hits at 30mcg.Repelled the males quite abit I noticed.I applied 2sprays of IOx2(hair) to remedy the situation in the late afternoon and everyone(+myself) just turned into hyperactive chickens.😃 \*Cluck!_Cluck!_  
I might be having a sore throat soon…

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/4 "2006-05-02T16:15:57Z")

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When I first applied a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) I too felt a little “strange” (if I recall it was a couple drops of Primal Instinct), but the effect passed. I noe only feel a bit “odd” when I do higher-that-“normal” application. Like I tried a 4 IShine, 4 IFM, 2 TAF, 2 (2.5) -none, and a few drops of a314 as an “overkill” experiment (at least it was for me) a while back. I was almost shaking for a while… (I may have had 2 IOpen as well but I don’t recall). Testing my limits sort of thing. Whoo.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/5 "2006-05-02T16:26:37Z")

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> tacitus  
> Initial exposure to new pheromones \*has the potential \*to feel unsettling… sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t. remember that you are in the maximum exposure zone. Normally the pherobrain adapts rapidly and you will soon feel almost nothing while others are responding with greater intensity. Then you will need to make another adjustment when you become the “hardhead” and they are the sensitive butterflies…
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> When I was first exposed to concentrated TAH, lovely stuff BTW, I thought damn, this is wicked element, man… then TAH found its way into my repertoire and it gives me some nice sensory enhancement without the overstim reaction…

> [@](#):
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> I rather wish the nice chemists at Androtics would sell a product along the lines of A314 minus the mones, a neutral binder-fixative-slow release additive… something not too blamed hydrophobic so we can wash it off without consuming a quarter bar of soap in the process…
> 
> Dipropylene or Dibutylene Glycol, combined with Squalene (most closely resembles skin oils and probably favorably facilitates linear diffusion rates, Dimethicone for spreadability and “silky texture” on skin… Hint A314 in excess can feel too sticky-greasy… needs the dryer touch of added silicone… market the product over the website as phero binder skin moisturizer… then we, the end users, could adjust for fast versus slow release and not be hit over the head with a overly strong first blast.

Good idea!

We have all of those available. We’ve even toyed with silicon based pheromones.

Some essential oils add incredible tenacity as well.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/6 "2006-05-02T16:27:08Z")

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> [@Dancing\_Joker](#):
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> I’ve been trying P75 since Friday. The first time I applied P75 to my skin, I had a sensation similar to a none rush (slight pounding in my head, boost in energy, increase in visual acuity), and that was only one drop of a mix with P75! 😮 During my tests with mixes using P75, I’ve experienced more head rushes, as if there were a weight bearing down on my head and shoulders.
> 
> On Sunday, I used a total of ~150 mcg over the course of 4 hours. I woke up Monday morning with serious light headedness and slight dizziness. It felt as if my perception were visually distorted, but while I was disoriented physically, my mind was clear and actually focused. It also felt as if I had a strange headache that lasted throughout the day.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this? If P75 causes disorientation or headaches in men, I can see how it would drive men away like someone mentioned previously.

Go low with [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) through P77.

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**Author:** ![Rapaille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Rapaille](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rapaille)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/7 "2006-05-02T21:56:13Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Go low with P75 through P77.

What do you think is max? (I know it’s a putative but I would like to hear your opinion) I have the 10 mcg/spray and i know use 2 sprays. (never used more). I think 4 sprays is my max (don’t know why i think that) so a total of 40 mcg p75.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/8 "2006-05-03T07:49:18Z")

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> [@Rapaille](#):
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> What do you think is max? (I know it’s a putative but I would like to hear your opinion) I have the 10 mcg/spray and i know use 2 sprays. (never used more). I think 4 sprays is my max (don’t know why i think that) so a total of 40 mcg p75.

Maximum dosages vary in a very extreme way.

Caucasians, for instance, seem to “overdose” with something like androstenone far faster than Asians.

Meat eaters faster than vegetarians.

Supplementers (vitamin takers) faster than "I get everything I need from my food"ers.

If you OD on androstenone easily, I’d say 20 to 30 would be your absolute max, with 1mcg to 10mcg being good ranges to experiment with initially.

You don’t don’t OD on androstenone easily, 5 to 25 would probably be good to conduct your initial experiments with, with 50 being an absolute maximum.

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**Author:** ![SwingerMD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwingerMD)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 7:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/9 "2006-05-04T07:07:09Z")

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Interesting,

BTW I’m asian and perhaps my sweet spot for p75 seems to be at 60 mcg. It’s comfy with me (doesn’t seem to neg effect me), attracts a lot of female attention (the follow’s will not let me rest), and drives away the competiton. 8)

-SwingerMD

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 8:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/10 "2006-05-04T08:18:27Z")

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What kind of results are you all getting with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) as opposed to A1 or IFM. Can someone please outline the differences in effects they have noticed between P75 and A1/IFM?

Visionary

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**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/11 "2006-05-06T16:13:22Z")

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Ok here’s my analysis of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) after a week’s use.I can only take around 3 max 4sprays.Anything more and I’ll feel a slight throb in my head,and my head feels heavy like I’m drunk.But women do react well to it.I notice they feel quite happy and chatty in my area.An effect which is quite similar to A1.I can’t tell any difference between them yet.But they definitely do give you the attention from women you need.And they do repel males.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2006, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/12 "2006-05-06T20:43:20Z")

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> [@Homura83](#):
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> Ok here’s my analysis of P75 after a week’s use.I can only take around 3 max 4sprays.

3 or 4 of what dosage?

> [@](#):
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> Anything more and I’ll feel a slight throb in my head,and my head feels heavy like I’m drunk.But women do react well to it.I notice they feel quite happy and chatty in my area.An effect which is quite similar to A1.I can’t tell any difference between them yet.But they definitely do give you the attention from women you need.And they do repel males.

Sounds like it repels you a little, just like A1 does.

Can you withstand the negative effects of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) more than A1, or do not mind A1’s side effects as much?

Also, where on your body did you apply the P75? You could probably apply it just like A1 – away from your own nose.

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**Author:** ![Homura83](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/homura83/32/1989_2.png) [@Homura83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Homura83)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2006, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/13 "2006-05-07T00:37:04Z")

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Oh its 3 to 4 sprays of 15mcg/spray.Thats about 45-60mcg total.  
I have never really tried A1 alone.I was actually referring to the tweaked A1 in IFM.If you’re talking about A1 in IFM,I can tell you that I can defininitely withstand IFM better.In other words,IFM feels much better.  
Always sprayed [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) to my chest(1spray) and behind my neck(2sprays).Same goes if I use IFM.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2006, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/14 "2006-05-07T01:13:00Z")

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> [@Homura83](#):
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> Oh its 3 to 4 sprays of 15mcg/spray.Thats about 45-60mcg total.  
> I have never really tried A1 alone.I was actually referring to the tweaked A1 in IFM.If you’re talking about A1 in IFM,I can tell you that I can defininitely withstand IFM better.In other words,IFM feels much better.  
> Always sprayed P75 to my chest(1spray) and behind my neck(2sprays).Same goes if I use IFM.

Brave man!

Please be careful with the putatives, since their effects are so unknown.

See what happens at the lowest dosage available to you (15mcg).

To other who want to test the putatives: I recommend the lowest dosage we sell for [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) to P77, until more is known about them. Caution is the order of the day with complete unknowns.

That said, it’s interesting IFM feels better to you. Thanks for the comparison.

From the feedback I’ve been seeing so far, if P75 is ever makes it’s way into a consumer product, it’ll probably need to corrected much like “A1” is.

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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2006, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/15 "2006-05-07T02:34:27Z")

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Moderate amounts of P79+P80 OK around men

have observed a good guy energy with these two deployed together, no competition, clean male energy, not all bondy and huggy though… men being men…

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/16 "2006-05-27T03:47:09Z")

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Hi Guys

any updates on what [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) does other than cause other men to run away from you and give you headaches?

Any difference to IFM or A1 in how it makes women react?

Homura and Dancing Joker I am looking at you guys

Visionary

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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2007, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/17 "2007-07-13T16:44:06Z")

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Any updates on [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)?

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**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2007, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/18 "2007-07-17T04:18:16Z")

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It would be good to know even other users’s opinions 😉 (and Mharris’ of course) 🙂

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/19 "2007-07-22T07:29:33Z")

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My limited experiences of P75 are as follows (I used a 12.5 mcg ToGo Bottle and tried heavy amounts on occassion like 120 mcg to see if it would do anything extra special):

- in every day life it seems to have a non-sexual magnetism towards women (not a really powerful pheromonal effect but definitely and consistently there);
- as other guys in this thread have noted, it seems to make me feel unwell. Am unsure in what way exactly as I am not prone to headaches like some of the other guys in the thread had with P75 . It did seem to make me aggressive in a sexually frustrated way similar to the way I get with too much Androstenone . Interestingly though, it didn’t make me sexually aroused though in everyday life which is not like Androstenone.
- once things got hot and heavy with me and a woman, P75 definitely made things more animalistic (50-60 mcg seems to do this well). Only once things got hot and heavy though did this happen - unlike Androstenone which can make people aroused even if things aren’t hot and heavy yet.

From a preliminary trial, the best use for P75 I think may be as a sexual enhancer. P75 might be a way of getting more passion and arousal into sex/hooking up - IMHO it is probably stronger than the other putatives that are said to do this like P79, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), P90, and P93. So P75 might get you less unpredictable reactions and tension from women than with Androstenone but give you the same level of lust and passion.

So anyone else try it- a lot of people should of got this as a freebie and it would be polite to post the results.

Visionary

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 10:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-oi/328/20 "2007-07-25T10:36:24Z")

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SwingerMD’s (mostly very positive) trials with P75 are pasted in below…

P74  
SwingerMD (April 1, 2006):  
"I just started testing out p75. My initial trial is here: `http://swingermd.pheromoneblogs.com/...ls-p75-part-i/`

This one seems to get a lot of attention and approaches for me unlike p74. It also seems to repel males…"

P74  
SwingerMD (April 21, 2006):  
“…As for p75, at 60mcgs I was getting a lot of positive (follows asking me to dance) results. Perhaps maybe a tad too much since they wouldn’t let me rest…”

P74  
SwingerMD (April 24, 2006):  
“…For me Androstadienone, gives me such a nasty headache that I usually not in a very receptive mood when I wear it. P75 doesn’t effect me negatively at all (the other guys don’t seem to like it much)…”

P74  
SwingerMD (April 26, 2006):  
Originally Posted by Homura83  
Hence P75 is like Androstadienone without ANY negative effects on the wearer and repels all else that is male,while making you the centre of female attraction.  
“It seems that way. Not sure how it works to repel other males without side effects on the (male) user…”

New Oriental [Pheromone Cologne](https://a314.com/shop/)?  
SwingerMD (April 30, 2006):  
“… p75 - p75 has a very strong sense of “magnetisim” with the opposite (female) sex…”

P75 … Oi!!!  
SwingerMD (May 4, 2006):  
"Interesting,

BTW I’m asian and perhaps my sweet spot for p75 seems to be at 60 mcg. It’s comfy with me (doesn’t seem to neg effect me), attracts a lot of female attention (the follow’s will not let me rest), and drives away the competiton. 8)…"

Getting them to initiate - or, How about that CTTM?  
SwingerMD (June 4, 2006):  
“…For me it seems that all the women pratically appear out of nowhere with I have p75 and p78 (to a slightly lesser extent)…”

Getting them to initiate - or, How about that CTTM?  
SwingerMD (June 4, 2006):  
“…For me p75 is one of my top pheros for getting follows to ask me to dance out on the floor (most expect guys to do the asking)…”

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