# P75 P76 Torsion vs Tension

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 7, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-p76-torsion-vs-tension/19013 "2008-09-07T16:14:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-p76-torsion-vs-tension/19013/4 "2009-03-27T12:29:03Z")

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> [@renny](#):
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> I’m fairly convinced that at least P76 and P78 are being used in some, perhaps many of the consumer products.

Renny, I am curious why you think these putatives are used in many of the consumer products, especially for P76?

I tried SwingerMD’s high dosage of 60 mcg for P76 along with 30 mcg TAK, 1 spray IS, and 3 prays CTTM. I added another dose of P76 later in the day along with 25 mcg of P74. I can’t say I noticed anything clear aside from possibly a little more respect and ‘heaviness’. If anything, it feels like a component of A314 with a slightly friendly vibe to me at this early stage (it can’t be a key component of A314 though - see MHarris’ quote below). I do feel P76 needs to be covered as there is definitely some kind of strong smell to it.

I did feel a bit tense later today but I thought it was the P74 - that one seems to make me appear cool and relaxed socially while at the same time leading to a ‘wired’ effect.

High dose P76 (60 mcg) definitely doesn’t distance people as much though as substantial amounts of AndrostEnone or P80 do though. Nor did I detect feeling horny in the slightest bit with it on.

I am going to continue testing high doses of P76 with friendly molecules.  
60 mcg of P76 + P86 and TAK (the latter two to add ‘calmness’ to any tension-promoting effect from the high dose P76) might be an interesting combo to try…

> [@before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/78):
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> Visionary, For p76, I’m thinking that the ideal amount might be somewhere between 30 mcgs and 60 mcgs. At around 60 mcg I kinda get the vibe off people that is very similar to the vibe that I get if I overshot my ideal -none dose, but not enough to start repelling people like the plague. Everyone is tense. Perhaps a bit of LT or perhaps IH would loosen people’s tounges to give me more of an idea on what is running through their heads when I have p76 on. At the moment p81 does seem to have …

SwingerMD (July 27, 2006):  
“…For p76, I’m thinking that the ideal amount might be somewhere between 30 mcgs and 60 mcgs. At around 60 mcg I kinda get the vibe off people that is very similar to the vibe that I get if I overshot my ideal -none dose, but not enough to start repelling people like the plague. Everyone is tense. Perhaps a bit of LT or perhaps [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) would loosen people’s tounges to give me more of an idea on what is running through their heads when I have p76 on…”

> [@A314 New Scents & Essential oils: Your immediate opinion required](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-new-scents-essential-oils-your-immediate-opinion-required/852/57):
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> Guys, we’ve sold out of this microbatch of A314. We had about 100 bottles. The A314 “core” for a new batch has already been made. I’d like to finalize it today. How did those of you who picked up this batch like it? I don’t mean the scent, per se… I mean the pheromonal effects. Ever so slight tweaks were made. It was closer to the formula used in MX172 than it was MX102. I’m willing to make other, very small additions or subtractions. The core effects must remain the same, so no dramatic reco…

MHarris (December 27, 2006):  
"…I’m willing to make other, very small additions or subtractions. The core effects must remain the same, so no dramatic recommendations, please.

i..e., I’m not going to add P76, P77 or P80 to Classic [A314]…"

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