# P78 A Charisma Putative? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 8, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-a-charisma-putative/26855 "2009-03-08T17:52:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-a-charisma-putative/26855/1 "2009-03-08T17:52:59Z")
**Product name,scent and strength** P78, 12.5mcg To Go, in Grapefruit **Application dosage and locations** From 1 to 4 sprays at 12.5mcg per spray. I’m tending to favor 2 sprays. **Enviroment tested in.** Work (retail) shopping, general life locations **Self effects.** Some posture effects as with A314, stand a little straighter, shoulders squared, relaxed. I feel a little excitement, energy, but at the same time a little slowing down of movement. I haven’t felt any negatives using it alone but after using it with some -nols think it could have a dark side. **Effects to others** It may pull people into your paradigm. I’m seeing faces go almost blank with attention when I’m talking. Then they’ll snap right around and catch little quips or puns right away. Affects both men and women but seems to affect the ladies more. No aggressive/avoidance affects on either so far, but wouldn’t rule out the possibilty. **Duration of effects.** Seems to last a relatively long time 6 hrs or more **Effects from mixing with other products.** When first using it I thought it might be a perfect addition to IO or IH and I’m starting to experiment with those now but not getting what I expected so far, will update… **Range** Works at normal conversation distance. Arms length to 3-5 ft. **Time exposure** Needs a little time 3 - 5 minutes but can see effects a little more quickly on occasion. For my thoughts about getting this in Grapefruit scent check here [Guys, Loathe Neroli? Try Grapefruit!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-loathe-neroli-try-grapefruit/26702) Some specific hits: Regular customer, Boy 9 or 10. This kid comes in once or twice a week. He’s smart and loves to tell me how much change he should get back from the transaction, sort of excercizing his subtraction skills I guess. Kind of serious, all business, like some kids can be when around adults. I usually try to get a smile out of kids but this one just has a serious demeanor. This time he paid with a twenty and told me " That’s $9.53 in change". I took the bill and looked at it like I was really giving it the once over, looked down at him over my glasses. “Only if this is real money” I tried to sound as sinister as possible and then gave him a half smirk. He busted up laughing, I’ve never so much as gotten a smile from him before. Female 30ish, has toddler in arms. Asked a question and just sort of goes blank while I’m answering it. Then repeats back what I’ve told her and asks something else, the baby is getting fidgety and to start with she sort of coos and clucks at the kid, very motherly slightly distracted way, while listening to my reply. By the time I’m answering the third question the kid and mother are both DIHL (not a term I use often) listening to me. The first few days of trying it I thought “boy this is going to pair really well with IH and IO.” I tried it with IO and had a real feeling of frustration and distraction. That may have been a fluke though because I’m wearing 3 sprays of P78 and 3 sprays IO 1x today with none of that feeling. Overall, I’m very surprised that there is not more testing of P78. I think there is a lot of potential for combinations with P74, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I think it can add a charisma note to a lot of things. I would not be surprised to find this was already an ingredient in some of our favorite products. 🙄 --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-a-charisma-putative/26855)._