# P78 at 12.5 mcg: a deep talk with a stressed female roommate

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 27, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-at-12-5-mcg-a-deep-talk-with-a-stressed-female-roommate/33648 "2009-10-27T22:24:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Six](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@Six](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Six)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-at-12-5-mcg-a-deep-talk-with-a-stressed-female-roommate/33648/1 "2009-10-27T22:24:35Z")

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My first report! Been phero-free for almost two months or so… but have been using them generally for around two years (more in-depth intro here~ [2 years later and Finally my hello!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2-years-later-and-finally-my-hello/33331))

Well, I ordered a bunch of new toys that, after much reading, seemed to be the direction I wanted to go in…

**P78, 12.5 mcg, 1 spray shared between wrists.**

So to set the scene, late afternoon, myself and roommate, a beautiful woman and lifelong friend (late 20’s Caucasian), who has been up all night due to stress and basic life factors, and a bad previous night.

We were all ready in the midst of some deeper life discussions when the order arrived. PERFECT timing! I gave her a quick rundown of what I’ve read about P78, and asked if she’d like to try a spray with me (she obliged only after I reassured her it was neither Shine nor IFM, as she had the “cat pee” smell aversion years ago to those, and wanted me to never where mones around her again!😛). I applied 1 spray to myself on my wrists, and she took one spray to her chest just under the neckline of her shirt.

I really wanted to give her a chance to ease off on the mental churnings in her head so she could get some rest at some point, but didn’t want her spacey or unnaturally tired

After a quick bout with a mild headache/tightening just behind the eyes for her, which I believe was the shot of Alcohol and [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) she basically shot into her face, we went about trying to simply mellow out and relax. I noticed (while we where shuffling through music selections) that about half hour in that my cheeks were sore! I apparently had been smiling for the past fifteen minutes and hadn’t realized it 🙂! This isn’t that Shine type smile of goofy-ness, I just realized that I generally felt in very very good spirits. About an hour or so in, my mood was very upbeat. Not giddy, mind you, just overall… positive? I’d have to say it hit me much like those little Amino acid energy drinks like “5 hour energy”. I didn’t realize that anything was working, until it had been an hour or more and I suddenly just kinda startled myself with how good I’d been feeling the whole time! VERY nice! Not too of sudden hit for me, sort of a slow ramp up of mood (effects were noticeable since I was looking for them, in about 10 min.), and just a steady rise from there on in.

Now…as for her… she was already sleep deprived, so she simply became punchy. Her mood skyrocketed, but focus and clarity were obviously present, as she began demonstrating very sensual dance moves she’s had mulling around a bit to various bits of music. Knowing her forever and a day, I’ve always been her “project buddy” and we complement each other very well creatively to bounce ideas off of, and she is sometimes my model and muse for various artistic endeavors. We have NOT however been anything but friends for quite awhile, and she would shy from my touch unless in need of comfort. Well, now she is leaning back against me on the floor while talking and sipping a good beer, allot of hand holding, and finding excuses for kino on her part, hands resting on legs etc… not caring where they slide to rest… but nothing overt. Well, except that now its been about two hours, and after hearing a comment while watching something on the computer about “stimulating the economy”, she GRINS, and moves her index finger in the “come hither” way. Not toward me but at the screen. Now she takes her OTHER index finger and starts rubbing an imaginary tiny circle in the air just above where her first finger is still “stroking”… She casts her head in a long sideways glance to me, exclaiming in a lovely grinning voice, “STIMULATE the economy” 😮😃

HA! Oh my! we laugh that off, and She now goes to take a shower so I can drop her to a girlfriends house for the evening. Leaving the bathroom door cracked… which she _NEVER_ does, she exclaims several things whilst taking a shower. Amongst them are; “_wow, my ass has really gotten tighter!_”, and “_If you where in here right now I’d totally splash you!_”.

NO. I did NOT act on any of these! We do have a flirtatious and sometimes “comforting” past, but she is a friend and roommate, and given the sleep deprivation, and the beer, It would have been completely taking advantage of someone.

**CONCLUSION:**  
P78… I really really like you! It was nice to feel my effects, which ranged from an upbeat positive mood enhancement, to some really close open touchy-smiley bonding. I felt not carefree and giddy or buzzy, but like it was OK to touch and be touched, and simply enjoy that. I did NOT get anything romantic or sexual about it… HOWEVER when someone DOES feel that simply GOOD around you, it can, with circumstances much like the above on her part, open the door to letting more sensual type feelings surface if those are already present subsurface, which is what I believe happened on her part. Now, If we had both been drinking, I’m sure I would be writing this from the shower! Overall, I think this might just have to become a staple of mine. I seem to be able to let it go and concentrate on things, but it ramps into real effect when engaging with another person. Effects seemed to last at least 3-4 hours, possibly more, but I showered to go out for the evening and try my first mix out… 😉

PS: just realized that we were very close the whole time, so were were both exposed to a double dose, so 25mcg is what we were hit with… hmmm…

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**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-at-12-5-mcg-a-deep-talk-with-a-stressed-female-roommate/33648/2 "2009-10-27T23:08:13Z")

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Great report Six!

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-at-12-5-mcg-a-deep-talk-with-a-stressed-female-roommate/33648/3 "2009-10-27T23:46:23Z")

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Great report, nominated. I get very similar reactions from p78 so you can probably see why it’s my favourite putative. 12.5mcg-25mcg is a good dose you chose.
