# P78, Fun but Beta **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 22, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-fun-but-beta/51946 "2011-08-22T18:43:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Centrum\_Virium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Centrum\_Virium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centrum_Virium)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-fun-but-beta/51946/1 "2011-08-22T18:43:28Z")
I tested p78 solo over Friday and Saturday, I was out both night and tested it Saturday daytime in a coffee shop. So I apply 1 spray of p78 immediately before leaving the house, we must have been in the first bar in 15 minutes from that time. I was with 3 male firends who mentioned the smell (I love it) but didn’t act differently yet. The bar was fairly warm but not very busy yet. The first things that started to appear obvious to me was the **reluctance of my friends to act on ANY of my suggestions** , I say suggestions because that’s how they must have sounded… I just wasn’t alpha, and I am generally the alpha of this group. I’d suggest where to move to, they’d reluctantly follow which is very different from the norm. I’d suggest which drinks, it was like my voice was lost in the wind. Generally things along this line was happening constantly, it wasn’t done in a belittling way but it was definitely unusual behavior. I didn’t care though, I did feel good and felt like no matter how out in the open I was It felt natural (possible because it felt like no one was seeing me). I have read that some people notice social anxiety and I know it can influence how I perceive this but I have to agree, to some extent it does make me feel free to initiate new conversations easily, but this is compared to no mones, it doesn’t compare to a shot or two of IJ. With females it felt like I really had to up my game to create attraction, I could talk to anyone sure, but I wasn’t noticed it felt to me unless I did something to make myself noticed and had to work to keep it. To me its the feeling I used to have all the time… BETA. Ok to be fair I did get a girl home with me that night… to hear the words “we’re not guna have sex tonight”…sigh… put your top back on then. The next night was fairly similar results but I got of early because I was hella tired. Before heading the pictures to meet some friends I found myself alone in a coffee shop about 1 hour after applying 1 spray of p78. I wasn’t feeling particularly alpha but I was still acting it, its who I am, or have become over the past year. A 23ish yr old brunette actually opened me over the shoulder to ask if i knew how to solve a problem she had on her laptop. I got talking to her and found I was able to make her laugh easily enough but I wasn’t seeing any major IOI’s, still I number closed her and that’s all the say on that topic. My conclusion? It is quite a sociable mone but it needs some serious steering, maybe some A314 and IO would completely change how this puppy behaves, lets see… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-fun-but-beta/51946/2 "2011-08-30T20:38:03Z")
How much are you using for these tests mcg wise? Also keep in mind P78 is a single molecule and a putative and as such is by definition unknown. It might be that its a beta molecule. With IJ and all consumer products they are a mixture of molecules designed to get you a specific result. P78 is one molecule not designed to do anything except be experimented with and discover what it actually does. Nice reporting though ---
**Author:** ![Centrum\_Virium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Centrum\_Virium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centrum_Virium)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p78-fun-but-beta/51946/3 "2011-08-31T17:01:23Z")
Thanks steve, I’m using 1, 12.5mcg spray. Yeah I’m trying to understand exactly what this molecule conveys to others, I would say it send the message that you are a part of their group but it doesn’t convey any other status. Its actually very good for opening new groups and you can be the funny man but the attention is only on your for as long as you can keep them amused, it could be useful in some mix but I cant see its place in attraction as of yet… except for one weird hit I got in a coffee shop I talked about in another post… that still makes me wonder. I haven’t tested this enough in regular daytime environments outside of my social circle so I’ll post my results with that at the end of the week. 🙂