P78: one spray to the chest and I think I found a new favorite

Giving a kick is exactly what these do… yup, yup.

Diane

I gotta say I am totally amazed by the sheer volume of mones you can wear without zoning out or frying your neurotransmitters. Man thats a major cloud. Its almost 500 mcg of mone content. Thats like 10 sprays of Instant sexiness or MX135. You go girl LOL :smiley:

Now what method did you use ? Did you do your usual spray them all in another bottle and apply or did you layer ?

I havnt played with P78 to much. I cant say I got much from it when I did but its due for a revisit.

Great report.

Tisha

Meo-Est, EST, Beta Androstenol, and P78 were layered. The rest is a mix.

Tisha, I’d like to see if you can compare P78 to Meo-Est. To me they are very similar, but with P78 I get a kickass strong reaction, whereas with Meo-Est it is more of a slow purr.

Diane

Next test will be a layering of P78, P79, and P80, and cops, starting low, maybe 3 mcg of each and just 1/4 spray of the cops mix. That way I can move it up to the full 12.5 mcg of each.

I think I’ll do that this afternoon. :stuck_out_tongue:

Diane

Hi diane, can you elaborate more on the similarities and differences between Meo-est and P78?
I believe you mentioned that Meo really needs the help of additional molecules to push it in the right direction.
Is the same the case with p78, or is p78 have more of it’s own direction to it (ie, p78 could have applicable uses on it’s own)?
Do you feel P78 works synergistically with Meo-est, or do you feel that p78 could effectively replace Meo?

thanks.

Sure thing, Marty.

Meo-Est is more subtle than P78, but their flavor is the same for me. By that I mean they both make me feel very sensual. But it is like saying a butterly and a hummingbird are the same. They both fly, both are beautiful, but really they are very different in terms of flying power.

Meo-Est gives me a really sweet, sensual feeling. Meo-Est really only becomes powerful with high dose (100+ mcg) and addition of low dose of adjunctive pheromones (TAF, P102, P103). Without adjunctive pheromones, however, Meo-Est is much more undefined in terms of effects.

P78 also gives me a very sweet, sensual feeling, but P78 is incredibly powerful from the start and all alone, and at a very low dose (12.5 mcg). It is much more immediate and intense in its effects. The same adjunctive pheromones that I use with Meo-Est tend to diminish the purity of response and the intensity of response of P78 rather than augment it.

So one difference is in intensity and the type of change (up or down) with addition of adjunctive pheromones.

The other difference is flash.

With Meo-Est there is a low-burn of sensuality. Everything becomes sensual. My movements slow down and it makes my eyes soften (bedroom eyes). Meo-Est makes me feel very sexy and sensual. Think total female allure and a slow burn fire.

With P78 the sensuality is more immediately sexual and it feels like the first rush of sexual excitement - that flash of intense pleasure that gets you in the belly and runs through your whole body when you begin making love with someone you are totally in love with. Think instant sexual receptiveness and flash fire. Normally, I would only feel this much intensity (without pheromones) during my mid-month ovulation time. P78 gives me that anytime I use it.

Both pheromones take between 5-15 minutes after exposure to respond, and response to both of them intensifies for about 20-30 minutes and then levels out. These immediate effects last between 2-4 hours, but can resurface even 24 hours post exposure. Both pheromones act differently depending on what is used in conjunction with them. You can quickly become acclimated to either of these if you don’t take regular breaks from them.

I have a feeling these kinds of effects will only happen with women who are particularly sensitive to certain types of estrogen and who have positive responses to those. I doubt very much that men will get the same kind of responses with this particular pheromone. But I’d be very interested to see what effect this would have on guys. It might make them feel really good, sort of like EST.

Diane

Dammit Diane! I have had no choice but to order p78 in my next order, and its all your fault, lol.

:open_mouth:

You’re welcome! :smiley:

Diane

OMG! I just sprayed on 12.5 mcg P78 so I could give more accurate feedback to your question, Marty. All I can say is I hope my huband gets home early today.

Thanks a lot, Marty!

“You know what I feel like? I feel all the time like a cat on a hot tin roof.”

Diane

Awesome. I’m really trying to take a new approach with my pheromone usage. I’m finding that too many of the masculine mixes really just don’t suite my personality properly. No matter how hard I try to get in the spirit of the big macho -none man, it’s just not my style, and it’s not a frame of mind I can naturally slide into. I prefer nice, and to a certain degree suave.

I’m trying to re-approach the idea from the concept of comfort and sensuality. Socials, dis inhibitors, things that will make others more comfortable around me.

That is really awesome. Please come over to this side and let us know how your experiments are working out.

Diane

Oh, one other thing about P78. It sneaks up on you and can come back hard hours later, the same way P79 and P80 can. So, it is a little reminiscent of both of those also.

Diane

I think we’ve got a winner here. This molecule seems very pleasant. I definitely see sensuality, I could see romantic undertones as well.

For starters, the effect on myself did not seem overly dramatic, however, I did find myself in a much better mood than I had been all day. But unlike a great many other molecules and mixes, it wasn’t a total jolt, it was a quick natural progression.

I could describe it further as playful, maybe even flirty. Definitely two traits I don’t normally associate with myself. It seemed to create a desire to come out of my shell and embrace a certain playful demeanor.

I dig it.

Diane ,
Can you explain more on you p78 whiplash?

^.^ If you’re talking about the p78 marty I noticed that effect on the guys I was hanging out with when I was testing it. I mostly save it for emergency I feel blue days though because it gives me such a huge lift.

Just that hours later you can feel like you just reapplied the pheromone. P78 is like that. It will give its intensity back to you again and again.

Diane

Catlord has been at that particular game for years.

he’s the king of NOT needing additional 'none to be manly.

id check his stuff out.

ohhhh. hmm what neurotransmitter do you think its pinging?

I have no idea. Probably tons of different ones.

Over 60 neurotransmitters have been identified. They work in concert or opposing one another.

Diane

Ah the symphony of the human mind.

hmm hmm I was thinking maybe it was hitting dopamine or serotonin and there seems to be an effect on memory with me at least I find a lot of old happy memories popping up kinda like when I was on nortryptiline.

Whoa, I gotta take a look at the link and read up. Very interesting stuff I did not know about. At least that there were 60 anyways. Thanks!