# P79: has anyone used it at dosages higher than 2.5mcg/spray, and any OD signs? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 2, 2007, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875 "2007-02-02T06:37:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/1 "2007-02-02T06:37:21Z")
Was wondering if anyone on the board has P79 in anything higher than the 2.5mcg/spray dosage? I have used up to 6-8 sprays of the 2.5mcg per spray version and would be interested to know if anyone has used it in much higher dosages and with what results. Has anyone seen any OD signs at higher levels? Am thinking the P79 will be the basis of my Friday Night Mix tonight; along with something like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to town in down. Venue will be a smokey bar - will spike it with a smidge of Primal Instinct. If anyone has higher dose P79… thanks. Matt ---
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 7:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/2 "2007-02-02T07:44:21Z")
I have the 10mcg/spray, and I’ve used it once so far…i can’t say for sure, but it seems like it makes girls more ‘friendly’ especially if you’re already wearing some androstenone. i actually think primal instinct has some p79 in it because it has a similar friendly/sexual effect for me. it’s not raw like plain androstenone, but I think it smells kind of funky, so cover if you use a lot I guess ---
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/3 "2007-02-02T07:45:56Z")
> [@Matthew1982ct](#): > > …Friday Night Mix tonight… by the way, not sure if you’ve been drinking too much or not, but tonight is Thursday (at least on the west coast atm)…but if you’re in Friday already then 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 7:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/4 "2007-02-02T07:50:28Z")
mate I live in South Africa and it’s going on 10am Friday here. 😃 😃 😃 No comment on the drinking front 🆒 How many sprays are you using of your 10mcg P79? At most, so far? Matt ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/5 "2007-02-02T07:58:48Z")
I’ve heard of people using 20-50 mcg in my research ---
**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/6 "2007-02-02T08:23:44Z")
wow. that’s like 10-20 sprays for me. Jasmin used **50-75mcg** when she went to the dentist. Got a good tooth cleaning session (with other stuff on). And there’s me thinking **15mcg-20mcg** was a lot! Will use P79 liberally tonight. Will report back with a feedback. Matt ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 8:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/7 "2007-02-02T08:33:40Z")
25mcg spray on the way ---
**Author:** ![Marik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marik/32/1623_2.png) [@Marik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marik)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/8 "2007-02-02T09:32:02Z")
> [@smoothplayer](#): > > I have the 10mcg/spray, and I’ve used it once so far…i can’t say for sure, but it seems like it makes girls more ‘friendly’ especially if you’re already wearing some androstenone. I aslo have found that P79 can buffer a bit the aggressiveness of androstenone. But I don’t think that P79 is friendly by it self, it’s more in the non threatening male vibe. I got the 15mcg/spray and I can use up to 3/4. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/9 "2007-02-02T11:17:03Z")
I’ve noticed that P79 is an INTENSIFIER. Therefore you kind of have to pay attention to the other components of your brew. For instant, P79 + Shine = Uncork the champagne!!! P79 + sexy smidge of TAL = ROAR, MEOW! P79 + tooo much TAL = Too catty? Borderline Bitchy? Impatient! P79 + TINY none + ovulation = SEX ME UPPPPP. I SAID **NOW**. P79 + none OD + young girl = 😠ARRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!😠 P79 + TAF = “There is invisible dirt _somewhere_ on this perfecly clean floor and I am going to obliterate it.” P79 + slightly drunk = bubbles! P79 + dental hygenist = teeth so clean they hurt Intensifier. But that’s just my working hypothesis. My idea might completely change once I get more testnig opps under my belt and I can pull back for an eagles eye view (I would say I have a sparrow’s eyes view right now..much better than an ant’s eye view!) I’ve also noticed that _I_ get the P79 effects going once the ambient P79 levels raise above 10 mcg, and get really kickin’ somewhere in the 25-50 range. (Of course, this always depends on the ambient mix!) I’m not sure about tiny levels. In fact, Matt, you’re the first guy I know who has had some nifty results with small P79 doses. I see a lot of guys pick up the 2.5 mcg/spray P79 in the store because its cheap, and in the back of my head I can’t help but say, "Man…for the exact same dough you could have gotten a to go sized sprayer of P79 at 12.5 mcg and had better result…☹) BUT Your post also sparks my curiosity that, just maybe, P79 has some sexually dimorphic effects going on? ie - it works different on femmes than males? Or maybe I should rethink the 2.5 dosage? Ahh!! Back to square one! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 11:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/10 "2007-02-02T11:19:00Z")
> [@Marik](#): > > I aslo have found that P79 can buffer a bit the aggressiveness of androstenone. But I don’t think that P79 is friendly by it self, it’s more in the non threatening male vibe. I got the 15mcg/spray and I can use up to 3/4. Hey Marik, What do your None+P79 mixes look like? The ones that seem to be working for you? Dosage and application point? ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 11:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/11 "2007-02-02T11:23:27Z")
I love P79. I have 10 mcg spray and find three sprays intensifies intimacy, and makes me seem “In command.” I use it in tandem with i/Sexi A and TAL, and sometimes one spray of 12.5 mcg TAF, if I want EXTREME focus. I definitely think it works differently for both genders. I think [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and P88 do also, and I posted about that a while back. Jas..why are you awake at this hour? Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/12 "2007-02-02T11:31:07Z")
If I got a higher dose next time I’d go for the full size bottle as I prefer having a good 5-9 months supply. Even with 2.5mcg per spray I’ve been as high as 20mcg (8 sprays). Will probably go much higher tonight. Matt ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/13 "2007-02-02T11:53:39Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > I love P79. > > I have 10 mcg spray and find three sprays intensifies intimacy, and makes me seem “In command.” I use it in tandem with i/Sexi A and TAL, and sometimes one spray of 12.5 mcg TAF, if I want EXTREME focus. > > I definitely think it works differently for both genders. I think P83 and P88 do also, and I posted about that a while back. > > Jas..why are you awake at this hour? > > Ail 🙂 See! an Intensifier! Do you wear it _alone_ to increase intimacy? Then again, I’m talking to Ail, who has an ambient cops/honesty/sexy mix curing at any one time…🙄 ---
**Author:** ![spydax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/779978/32.png) [@spydax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spydax)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/14 "2007-02-02T14:33:13Z")
what dosage would you recommend for the young ones on here?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/15 "2007-02-02T14:43:49Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Why is Jas awake? Ha! I fielded a call from Australia about an hour ago Could have been two, but I emailed instead. ---
**Author:** ![thr3shold](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thr3shold/32/2316_2.png) [@thr3shold](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thr3shold)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/16 "2007-02-02T15:07:11Z")
For large strength effects of mones I always look to Tacitus as he seems to shower in the stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Marik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marik/32/1623_2.png) [@Marik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marik)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2007, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/17 "2007-02-02T16:41:11Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Hey Marik, > > What do your None+P79 mixes look like? The ones that seem to be working for you? Dosage and application point? A while ago i played a bit with a combo of a consistent amount of NPA (several dropps) + P79 2/3 sprays @ 15mcg + Androstadienone 50mcg. The mix was definitively too intense, too hard, but i got some female attention in the bus. More recently i tried P79 with impi as well as with Ammunition v1.0 (4x). It’s seems that P79 enhance a bit the response to the others pheros. Generaly my application points are always the same : wristles, back of the neck, back of the hands. sometime the front of the neck. If it’s Nols and Shine i will try to fix the pheros in my hair at the back of my head and eventually on my clothes. ---
**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/18 "2007-02-03T08:16:17Z")
I used 10 sprays of 2.5mcg P79: 3 (with an extra refresher later) sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/): 3 (with refresher) MX178 Not much to report; no hits to mention. Area was overcrowded bar; like fire hazard overcrowded. Got very very drunk instead. Matt ---
**Author:** ![bkshilo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@bkshilo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bkshilo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/19 "2007-02-03T18:07:44Z")
I’m gonna order this stuff. I think I’ll use it with some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and A314. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 5:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-has-anyone-used-it-at-dosages-higher-than-2-5mcg-spray-and-any-od-signs/1875/20 "2007-02-04T05:29:52Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > I’ve noticed that P79 is an INTENSIFIER. Therefore you kind of have to pay attention to the other components of your brew. > > For instant, > > P79 + Shine = Uncork the champagne!!! > P79 + sexy smidge of TAL = ROAR, MEOW! > P79 + tooo much TAL = Too catty? Borderline Bitchy? Impatient! > P79 + TINY none + ovulation = SEX ME UPPPPP. I SAID **NOW**. > P79 + none OD + young girl = 😠ARRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!😠 > P79 + TAF = “There is invisible dirt _somewhere_ on this perfecly clean floor and I am going to obliterate it.” > P79 + slightly drunk = bubbles! > P79 + dental hygenist = teeth so clean they hurt > > Intensifier. But that’s just my working hypothesis. My idea might completely change once I get more testnig opps under my belt and I can pull back for an eagles eye view (I would say I have a sparrow’s eyes view right now..much better than an ant’s eye view!) > > I’ve also noticed that _I_ get the P79 effects going once the ambient P79 levels raise above 10 mcg, and get really kickin’ somewhere in the 25-50 range. (Of course, this always depends on the ambient mix!) > > I’m not sure about tiny levels. In fact, Matt, you’re the first guy I know who has had some nifty results with small P79 doses. I see a lot of guys pick up the 2.5 mcg/spray P79 in the store because its cheap, and in the back of my head I can’t help but say, "Man…for the exact same dough you could have gotten a to go sized sprayer of P79 at 12.5 mcg and had better result…☹) > > BUT > > Your post also sparks my curiosity that, just maybe, P79 has some sexually dimorphic effects going on? ie - it works different on femmes than males? > > Or maybe I should rethink the 2.5 dosage? > > Ahh!! Back to square one! 😃 Masterful post Jas! I would like these kind of detailed posts on other putatives as well (were you gonna start a thread on P83?)… For me, P79 is a great focus enancer and actually makes people want to follow up on their reactions with action. I guess it would be an intensifier in that way. I love adding it in the middle of interactions (I might go to the bathroom and add a 12.5-25 mcg). I find when I come back, things become more ‘to the point’ and impulsive. It really helps keep things moving along without altering the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) mix too much. When timed properly the stuff can help with ‘closing the deal’. This initial impulsive burst of energy and excitement effect though only lasts 20-30 mins on me until P79 fades into something else (see next paragraph). It is still good but different. The impulsive, ‘let’s do it’ thing works well for me when wearing social/comfort mones without Androstenone. A comfort/social-dominant signature on its own, I find, puts things on the slow lane too much, but P79 helps move things along. Other times, I have used it and only thing I have noticed is that people seem to want to get their point across (whatever is on their mind) more even if it come across a little rude and ‘attitudey’ - a kind of argumentative version of Beta-Nol minus much of the rapport part. Nothing dark or sinister like Androstenone though-people will not really become distant with P79. Other times it seems to just help put me in a great focus so that I appreciate and really get into a movie I may be seeing more, a song I may be listening to, etc. Could this be the reason why some have noted ‘attraction’ effects with it - maybe a lady may be getting into a guy (and whatever others mones he is wearing) more? In that case P79 is personalising and focusing what may be some attraction into something more… In short the stuff is definitely useful but it is probably hard to pidgeonhole what it does… so maybe ‘Instant Intensifier’ or ‘Instant Focus’ are the best names for fully fledged products based on P79. Visionary