# P79, IJ, and some other stuff.

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 18, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-ij-and-some-other-stuff/42699 "2010-10-18T18:26:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-ij-and-some-other-stuff/42699/1 "2010-10-18T18:26:58Z")

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I need to get this down before I start forgetting.

OK so I tried this mix after reading a thread that P51 was commenting on about not trying P79 and IJ together. So of course I saw it as a challenge. I threated to wear 4 sprays of IJ and 20mcg of P79. Please realize that I am 6’3, athletic, and black.

So I decided to do it. Not really I kind of chickened out a bit. Here is what I’m actually wearing

@6pm  
1 drop A314 to jawline and above lips  
3 sprays of IJ: 2 to forearms and 1 to neck (wearing long sleeves with sleeves pulled up. I wanted some control or at least perceived control of the IJ, I believe bared forearms makes you look less intimidating.)  
4 sprays of P79 5mcg: forearms, neck, and hair  
1 spray of p83 10mcg: back of neck  
1 spray IS to face  
A1 Dial magnetik dime size washed forearms and hands  
A1 Got 2b magnetik: dime size for hair.

Self effects: No rage, but a little phero rush

Setting: At work

I will go over what I have noticed. Believe it or not, people aren’t ghosting me and they aren’t falling to the ground and begging me for mercy. I know I was shocked too. I had a meeting with a new customer, R, this morning for a new project. I got a few minutes to watch her interact with someone else for few minutes. I had my sleeves pulled up. Hers were down. She glanced at me to acknowledge me and continued her conversation. Then she ran her hands through her hair and pulled up her sweater sleeves and bared her forearms. (She turned them up) I got side tracked by someone else I know that I’m doing work for. He wasn’t intimidated at all. In fact he seemed very comfortable. Had no problem being close to me and continued to look me in the eyes the whole conversation. I go back to R and she is now on the cell phone with her husband, but she is now sitting and not standing. Normally I would wait to be invited to sit. I didn’t wait, I just sat. She got off the phone with her husband and we had our meeting. She laughed when I said something silly no matter how silly, she kept a lot of eye contact. She started mirroring my body posture immediately. If I sat forward so did she. If I leaned back so did she.

I had some errands to do after that. Went to Wally world for something. A lady there has helped me in the past. She’s in her late 40’s. I said hi to her and asked her where something was. For some reason I touched her. Then I touched her again consciously because I noticed nothing that she was even aware that i touched her. Then I put my hand on her arm and moved her, while I was still talking to her. I know this sounds silly but seriously I put my hand on her lower back and put her where I wanted her to stand. There was no resistance. She kept talking. I saw no signs of IOI’s. This is the second time I have ever seen this lady and the last time was in July before mones.

So I went to another store looking for this product and got great customer service, even though they didn’t have it either. Got the most thorough driving instructions of my life. Another older female customer at that store kept chiming in and telling me how the other store was great and would have what I needed.

So now I’m curious about the mix. After reading another thread about old [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1.5 scents and what smells similar I decide to go to Ulta to look for those colognes. The first lady there, late 40’s, has no clue what I’m looking for or if they have it, but she hangs out with me while I look and ask questions. I end up bumping into her a few times. Then I do the same thing I did with the woman in Walmart. I move her around. Another rep, female early 40’s, comes over that knows what I am looking for. She finds them and talks to me all about fragrances, which I’m very appreciative of. So I do the touching escalation test with her too. Same freaking response. I do a test spray over the P79 and IJ and have her smell it. She holds my arm gets a whiff and likes it. Then I see her pupils get larger. So I’m thinking the IJ is still there. (I get more pupil dilation from IJ then anything else.) Then some light flirting starts, but mostly it’s just stand close to me and talk.

Why isn’t anyone running for the hills??? Is it the A1 that is buffering so well? I would have thought that 3 sprays of IJ would be too much and that 20mcg of P79 would have made it crazy. I have used 1 shot of IJ and a few drops of a314 before. That is always a sexual mix for me. So I’m not sure what is going on.

When I ran into a female coworker, early 40’s, a little while ago she had the same behavior.

I need someone else to test this mix. I don’t know if I’m imagining this or how well it actually works. I can’t test it any further.

Thinking about reapplying p83, 79, and shine now. It has been 7 hours since application. What do you think?

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**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-ij-and-some-other-stuff/42699/2 "2010-10-18T18:34:15Z")

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Go for it. 😃

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-ij-and-some-other-stuff/42699/3 "2010-10-18T18:38:59Z")

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Some women respond positively to a high Androstenone signature. This could have been it.

Now if you really wanna be a maverick. During PMS time, wear IJ and P79 around that special someone and let us know what happens, if you survive…

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-ij-and-some-other-stuff/42699/4 "2010-10-18T18:53:31Z")

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Some women handle themselves really well no matter how intimidating you may think you seem to them. Haven’t tried it personally but honestly I think IJ + P79 + a hefty dose of P80 would have people gunning more. [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and P80 are much authoritative than none is. I find -none to be weak in the intimidation aspect, theres too much leeway for other men to challenge and shit test you.

I’m a little stout for a dude and have the skinniest wrists and arms of almost any guy period. This in particular makes it absolutely difficult for me to be congruent with enone when it comes to trying to appear intimidating. A-1 is not a primary buffer from what I’ve seen and even 30 mcgs of A-1 would have a tough time putting a handle on 40+ mcgs of enone when the buffers of IJ wear off and crunch time begins.

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**Author:** ![TheFreakOfTheUniverse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@TheFreakOfTheUniverse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheFreakOfTheUniverse)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-ij-and-some-other-stuff/42699/5 "2010-10-18T22:41:45Z")

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I wore IJ and P79..All my friends bitched me out. And then I threatened to throw down till they left me alone.

But then again alcohol was involved..In fact..Alcohol was involved on all the situations where I felt it did strange things to me or made people more aggressive.

IJ is pretty easy..But the 79 scares me a little. I put it on my friend he acted like a jerk. Its very “jerk”..but then again, he’s a jerk in general. I believe its disinhibiting, and that it makes people pay more attention or feel more strongly about what you say or do. It probably pairs very well with IJ for that..idk, 79 is a weird one. I sprayed a girl with it, she said it made her calm, instantly.

Women seem to like it, I don’t remember a time wearing it where women didn’t respond very favorably. It seems to make them pay more attention, stand closer, maybe everyone, idk..Maybe I’ll return to the 79, I put it on the shelf..It scared me man. But, maybe it has a place..You’ve inspired me to experiment more.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-ij-and-some-other-stuff/42699/6 "2010-11-05T21:37:42Z")

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> [@TheFreakOfTheUniverse](#):
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> I wore IJ and P79..All my friends bitched me out. And then I threatened to throw down till they left me alone.
> 
> But then again alcohol was involved..In fact..Alcohol was involved on all the situations where I felt it did strange things to me or made people more aggressive.
> 
> IJ is pretty easy..But the 79 scares me a little. I put it on my friend he acted like a jerk. Its very “jerk”..but then again, he’s a jerk in general. I believe its disinhibiting, and that it makes people pay more attention or feel more strongly about what you say or do. It probably pairs very well with IJ for that..idk, 79 is a weird one. I sprayed a girl with it, she said it made her calm, instantly.
> 
> Women seem to like it, I don’t remember a time wearing it where women didn’t respond very favorably. It seems to make them pay more attention, stand closer, maybe everyone, idk..Maybe I’ll return to the 79, I put it on the shelf..It scared me man. But, maybe it has a place..You’ve inspired me to experiment more.

From the reports I’ve read and my experiences it is NOT a disinhibitor but an amplifier. In other words it amplifies whatever feelings you have or others have.  
My first solo test at home and I had awakened feeling a bit spry to say the least, and before I knew it I was as horny as a teenage boy caught in a girl’s locker room during a scene from an 80’s Tand A flick.
