# P79, P74, IH, and ?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 12, 2013, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142 "2013-02-12T09:35:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Adam77](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/adam77/32/980_2.png) [@Adam77](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Adam77)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/1 "2013-02-12T09:35:42Z")

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Okay so I’ve been doing some reading and I’m going to try P79, P74, IH and I want to add one more to the mix.. I have Summer AMMO, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), P75, TuTH, A134, IG, mx297, IS, and P102.

Would a 4th mone be overkill? I’m going to be with my ex (we are separated but still working on things), and she is a 27 year old Caucasian. I want to build attraction and maybe a crush effect. If it’s sexy or sexual that’s okay too.

Advice?

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**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 9:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/2 "2013-02-12T09:50:38Z")

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> [@Adam77](#):
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> Okay so I’ve been doing some reading and I’m going to try P79, P74, IH and I want to add one more to the mix.. I have Summer AMMO, P83, P75, TuTH, A134, IG, mx297, and P102.
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> Would a 4th mone be overkill? I’m going to be with my ex (we are separated but still working on things), and she is a 27 year old Caucasian. I want to build attraction and maybe a crush effect. If it’s sexy or sexual that’s okay too.
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> Advice?

74 + 75 + IH and leave off all else unless you know what you’re doing.

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 10:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/3 "2013-02-12T10:03:58Z")

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I think P79/P74/IH is perfect on it’s own, but if you need to add something I’d say 1 spray of [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/).

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 10:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/4 "2013-02-12T10:30:44Z")

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**Do not** wear P79 around you ex if there are any issues unresolved between you - Its emotional amplification properties can be very unpredictable and can go either way, good or very very badly!

Out of you selection of pheros, I would consider a choice between [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), P75 or even a little TUTH to help attraction over P79 any day

And as she’s 27, I would say P74/IH with TUTH/A314 is very much in the frame and IME, the A314/IH/P74 combo is one of the best fallout/crushy mixes there is - with or without an overt sexual like TUTH and it has always done very well for me. 🙂

Also remember that fallout/crush effects are invariably the result of repeated exposure, so be prepared to stick with the mix and don’t expect miracles from the off - it builds, sometimes quickly, or quite slowly. Depends on the individual.

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**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/5 "2013-02-12T13:56:50Z")

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mobo is it possible to add the sexual aura to a fallout mix? im thinking of A314+A1+betanol and a few sprays of TUTH.btw do you think 3 blasts TUTH(7.5mcg)is ok around 30+ women?

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/6 "2013-02-12T14:36:36Z")

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What a lot of people don’t know…is that TUTH has P79 in it. 😉

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/7 "2013-02-12T15:07:43Z")

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> [@leon333](#):
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> mobo is it possible to add the sexual aura to a fallout mix? im thinking of A314+A1+betanol and a few sprays of TUTH.btw do you think 3 blasts TUTH(7.5mcg)is ok around 30+ women?

Perfectly possible - I’m fond of sexualising A314 combos with TUTH or NPA (contains none and A1) and have used it very effectively, often. Sometimes with a little extra A1, often not. Although I did back off that around work after picking-up a few too many fallout girls - it was getting awkward, esp where there were husbands involved!

I now stick to A314 for work and keep these mixes for events where I need status and good rapport in a hurry with sometimes very difficult people - then I’ll add-in the sexual for dinner, drinks and more social stuff after. 🙂

I’d usually use 2-3 sprays NPA or 2-4 TUTH with an A314/IH/[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) mix, and yes thirty plus is where it hits hard! 😃

P114 is the other killer with an A314/overt sexual combo - Not so much fallout, more “Fall on your knees and just do it!” 😉

P97 is another that is proving very interesting with status/sexuals for me just now - More fascination/domination rather than outright fallout but I don’t think my health is letting me get the best or letting me use it to its fullest extent just now but I’m getting some pretty positive results in the 20/25mcg range.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/8 "2013-02-12T15:14:09Z")

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> [@examine](#):
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> What a lot of people don’t know…is that TUTH has P79 in it. 😉

Source?

I could believe it - and to some extent it could explain TUTH’s sometimes fickle nature and its need for even a little social moderation in most situations other than around someone already very sexually comfortable with you.

However I’ve seen so many postulations about the steering components in TUTH that FTM, this just goes-on the end of a long list. 🙂

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/9 "2013-02-12T15:21:31Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Source?
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> I could believe it - and to some extent it could explain TUTH’s sometimes fickle nature and its need for even a little social moderation in most situations other than around someone already very sexually comfortable with you.
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> However I’ve seen so many postulations about the steering components in TUTH that FTM, this just goes-on the end of a long list. 🙂

> [@P is for PANTYSOAKER - P79](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598):
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> Hi all, I just picked up some P79 (unscented @ 2.5 mu/spray) and wanted to share some initial impressions. Thanks for the [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) sample, btw.smiley I spent Saturday w/ my Primary Partner (bisexual 28 y.o.). She’s been exposed to a variety of mones and mixes, so I can pretty easily gauge her reactions to certain things. I noticed what appeared to be a reaction at only 10 mu. I excused myself and added another 5 mu w/in 2 hours of my initial application. Definite reaction now. As we were sittin…

> [@P is for PANTYSOAKER - P79](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/28):
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> As of right now, the only consumer product that contains P79 is TUTH v1.1.
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> Of course, the big 'mone in TUTH v1.1 is -None, so P79 isn’t the central focus (like TAA is in Shine). There’s a slew of modifier mones in TUTH to make it more sexual. P79 is one of them.

P79 has always been sexual to me. All it needs is a 1:1 with a happy [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) like P74 and it almost always steers to the bright side.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/10 "2013-02-12T15:40:28Z")

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Thanks! Now that explains a lot - Then TUTH certainly does not need any more P79 without significant social moderation - and yes, the night I got my ribs broken by a wild passionate woman going totally off on one in bed did involve a TUTH/P79 combo - OW! 😮 :o 😃

Now what are the other steering components in TUTH?

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-p74-ih-and/58142/11 "2013-02-12T16:15:45Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Thanks! Now that explains a lot - Then TUTH certainly does not need any more P79 without significant social moderation - and yes, the night I got my ribs broken by a wild passionate woman going totally off on one in bed did involve a TUTH/P79 combo - OW! 😮 :o 😃
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> Now what are the other steering components in TUTH?

good question I don’t think Harris would ever reveal that hehehe. I know there were a couple of Ps in there tho, P79 being one of them and I believe TAA.

I’ve never had problems with P79 being overly aggressive or negative, it’s always brightened sprays like [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), Bnol and TAA, amplifying all the socials in a mix while leaving the darker ones like rone and -none alone. The only time P79 ever messes with those, are when there are no socials balanced 1:1 with it, or P79 is over balanced significantly. other than that, esp during the early years (see thread linked) P79 was crazy, it was getting most of us attention back then, and those with charm and game were getting laid. 😃

I have nothing negative to say about P79, esp when used in a social and attraction mix, P79 is the component that can turn those mixes sexual even without -nones. It makes social mixes (a TAA mix for example) overly exciting and bright to where the subject (who’s mood is elevated from the social mix) so excited and happy the intensity (P79) usually makes them act out on it. that’s why with TUTH (dash of -none), it makes girls jump your bones or at the very least show you tons of IOIs bluntly. -none causes arousal, but P79 pushes them.

Now if you have 15mcgs of -none, 5 mcgs of anol and 30 mcg of P79, you might get into some issues lol. P79 is over represented, people in the early days were trying to use it as a buffer LOL, we found out it doesn’t work as a buffer it just amplifies everything, so basically you’re just amplifying your OD haha
