# P80 Feedback **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 9, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-feedback/19106 "2008-09-09T02:26:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sandalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Sandalo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sandalo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-feedback/19106/1 "2008-09-09T02:26:57Z")
I purchased a 2mg bottle of P80 @ 10mcg/spray, and have selectively tested this experimone in professional/business environments based on others’ experiences with and observations on P80 having imparted a ‘serious authority’ that A314 naturally lends to. Here, P80 was tested on its own, and A314’s known effects used as a baseline reference, with the obvious intent to not only compare but at some point augment A314’s use with P80 as well. Application was initially made to bare skin, but diffused too strong and fast to be of any use - one hour at most, with a distinctive sense (self-effect) of both ‘critical’ and ‘cautious’ toward whatever task or topic was at hand. This should not be confused with some sort of trepidation; rather, an earnest interest - or, intensity - in ‘getting it right’. Sprays were increased to 50mcg in this manner with no prolonging of the diffusion; then, by combining with various fixatives was able to sustain 10mcg for some three to four hours in total - enough to gauge others’ responses: P80 conveys neither sexual nor social proclivities, per se. It does, though, project a certain stature that can become brutish at higher doses (tested up to ten sprays with fixatives, for 100mcg total) in its delivery, whereupon the ‘scientific’ productivity of the lower doses is upstaged, if not usurped, by the ‘stature’ effect at the higher doses; the latter of which becoming simply nonproductive and even off putting. I have applied P80 on over a dozen such occasions in the said manner, and in turn have found that it does combine well with A314. P80 has no distinct odor, so no cover scent was necessary. In fact, substituting P80 for -none (with A314) may make for a more convenient mix in this regard, not being limited by smell considerations while retaining the ‘heavyweight’ elements. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-feedback/19106/2 "2008-09-09T17:36:31Z")
Sandalo, first up thanks for taking the time to try one of the lesser known putatives, using it by itself and offering a report on it. > [@](#): > > I purchased a 2mg bottle of [P80](https://pheromonelabs.com/) @ 10mcg/spray, and have selectively tested this experimone in professional/business environments based on others’ experiences with and observations on [P80](https://pheromonelabs.com/) having imparted a ‘serious authority’ that A314 naturally lends to. Not asking you to get too specific but can you tell us what the environment is? Legal, financial, education, law enforcement? It would help me better understand what you mean by “authority” What fixatives worked best? Lastly, can you characterize any target behavior? Attentive, fearful, calm, submissive? For instance A314 I would characterize as “compliant to eagarly helpful”. I know P80 is a putative and probably much more single dimension than A314. I guess what I’m asking is what does P80 add to the A314 _response_? Great report! ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-feedback/19106/3 "2008-09-10T00:28:51Z")
All right! Well reasoned and well reported. ---
**Author:** ![Sandalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Sandalo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sandalo)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-feedback/19106/4 "2008-09-10T00:35:10Z")
The ‘serious authority’ refers to _other_ member’s reports on P80. Dosage would determine this, purportedly. DPG is an effective fixative; “Glucam P-20” more so, credited to Daedelus, who has posted in depth on this compound. P80 augments A314’s fundamental characteristics for the better, delivering more muscle and mileage (akin to adding -none), though, perhaps a bit more Lee Van Cleef than Clint Eastwood. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 10:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-feedback/19106/5 "2008-09-10T10:10:29Z")
> [@Sandalo](#): > > I purchased a 2mg bottle of P80 @ 10mcg/spray, and have selectively tested this experimone in professional/business environments based on others’ experiences with and observations on P80 having imparted a ‘serious authority’ that A314 naturally lends to. > > Here, P80 was tested on its own, and A314’s known effects used as a baseline reference, with the obvious intent to not only compare but at some point augment A314’s use with P80 as well. > > Application was initially made to bare skin, but diffused too strong and fast to be of any use - one hour at most, **with a distinctive sense (self-effect) of both ‘critical’ and ‘cautious’ toward whatever task or topic was at hand. This should not be confused with some sort of trepidation; rather, an earnest interest - or, intensity - in ‘getting it right’.** > > Sprays were increased to 50mcg in this manner with no prolonging of the diffusion; then, by combining with various fixatives was able to sustain 10mcg for some three to four hours in total - enough to gauge others’ responses: > > **P80 conveys neither sexual nor social proclivities, per se. It does, though, project a certain stature that can become brutish at higher doses (tested up to ten sprays with fixatives, for 100mcg total) in its delivery, whereupon the ‘scientific’ productivity of the lower doses is upstaged, if not usurped, by the ‘stature’ effect at the higher doses; the latter of which becoming simply nonproductive and even off putting.** > > I have applied P80 on over a dozen such occasions in the said manner, and in turn have found that it does combine well with A314. P80 has no distinct odor, so no cover scent was necessary. In fact, substituting P80 for -none (with A314) may make for a more convenient mix in this regard, not being limited by smell considerations while retaining the ‘heavyweight’ elements. > [@Sandalo](#): > > The ‘serious authority’ refers to _other_ member’s reports on P80. Dosage would determine this, purportedly. > > DPG is an effective fixative; “Glucam P-20” more so, credited to Daedelus, who has posted in depth on this compound. > > P80 augments A314’s fundamental characteristics for the better, delivering more muscle and mileage (akin to adding -none), though, perhaps a bit more Lee Van Cleef than Clint Eastwood. Awesome stuff! Lee Van Cleef eh?🆒 I think the slow diffusion is the key with P80 and that is why some (like tacitus who himself used strong fixatives) have had some success with it. Some questions for you Sandalo: - you say that “with a distinctive sense (self-effect) of both ‘critical’ and ‘cautious’ toward whatever task or topic was at hand. This should not be confused with some sort of trepidation; rather, an earnest interest - or, intensity - in ‘getting it right’.” **In what area do you think this would be most useful?** I am thinking perhaps as some sort of performance aid (think written project, public speaking, or even sex). **Could it be useful for example for a college professor marking assignments or any kind of judging work? Did you notice in any area at work where it improved things in your performance?** - you say that “P80 conveys neither sexual nor social proclivities, per se. It does, though, project a certain stature that can become brutish at higher doses (tested up to ten sprays with fixatives, for 100mcg total) in its delivery, whereupon the ‘scientific’ productivity of the lower doses is upstaged, if not usurped, by the ‘stature’ effect at the higher doses; the latter of which becoming simply nonproductive and even off putting.” **Have you tried combining the off-putting higher dosages of P80 (even 100 mcg) with megadoses of friendly molecules like Alpha-Androstenol? After all, AndrosteNone at even a few mcg on its own should be off-putting but you combine it with high doses of friendly molecules and the effect is outweghed. Now couldn’t the same thing occur with P80?** ---
**Author:** ![Sandalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Sandalo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sandalo)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-feedback/19106/6 "2008-09-10T18:59:20Z")
Visionary, the two propositions referred to do call for further experimentation.