# P80/p83/p79 OD **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 14, 2008, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941 "2008-12-14T08:02:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/1 "2008-12-14T08:02:59Z")
This is for you, Bella… I had to try this. 12.5 mcg P80, 12.5 mcg [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), 12.5 mcg P79, 10 mcg TAF – I sprayed this gawdawful mix on to test the self effects. Immediately got a very, very heavy masculine feel… actually wanted to snort and stomp my feet (or was that _ **pound on my shield with my sword? - RAWR** _). My body felt totally ready for battle. This is so different from my normal, sensual, airy-fairy feel. I got a low-down, dirty buzz from it. And interestingly, P79 did not run away with it, it just intensified the hell out of that low down, digging-in-for-battle feeling. Okay, so after 15 minutes I can definitely say this is a very heavy, earth-bound, masculine feel. I decided to try to lighten it up with some Meo-Est and 10 mcg more TAF. From my notes: \*It feels like the mix is a little frustrated… clipped wings. Oh, my Gawd! It isn’t clipped wings at all. 😮 It is tunnelling-- really down low. I feel **SEX** in my legs, in my lower belly, in my lower back and the big muscles in my butt… I wanna **move**! This is so odd, my head wants to fly. My body wants to dig in and move hard. \* Okay, I was overwhelmed, so I layed down to rest. This was a definite OD situation and way too heavy. I won’t be doing that again! Oh, one other thing - this mix has a sadistic feel to it. That might be the frustration of the mix with no target… or it may be that it is lucky I had no target… heh! Diane ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/2 "2008-12-14T17:38:37Z")
Woah! that’s alot of putatives! and go you! for trying all those bad boys at the same time, you’re certainly brave lol! Interesting self effects too! ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/3 "2008-12-15T08:48:59Z")
Wow! I just found this in the archives of the men’s section: [P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74/197) > [@P74: who has tried the 5mg/spray dose?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-who-has-tried-the-5mg-spray-dose/197/36): > > P80 was potent as hell. OTOH more sophisticated than androstenone. With P80 my mind felt unusually engaged, a dig deep and stay focused on the topic mindset, sort of the opposite of racy and centrifugal or spacy… because it lacked the adolescent crudity of -none did not mean that it lacked for potency… it was something I’d like to see guys using when the worked on structural steel… the message seems to be “get it right, don’t screw up”… however, an OD of this could potentially be waaaay to intense… think: > > "“The drill sergeant campaign hat is one of the most prestigious and sought-after uniform items in the military inventory,” said CSM Scottie Thomas. “With the drill sergeant patch, worn by current and former drill sergeants, it signifies that a Soldier has accepted one of the greatest responsibilities in the Army today – turning civilians into Soldiers,” added Thomas, the Commandant of the Drill Sergeant School at Fort Jackson, S.C. " The dig in deep, intensity, and soldier stuff… that can’t be coincidence! 😮 Diane ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 1:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/4 "2008-12-15T13:14:56Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > _ **This is for you, Bella… I had to try this** _\*\*\*.\*\*\* Yeah you crazy, too. Think I found another kindred spirit…lol. 🙂 I’d rep you, you crazy peanut 😃, but I just repped you for the P80 thread. > [@](#): > > _ **12.5 mcg P80, 12.5 mcg P83, 12.5 mcg P79, 10 mcg TAF – I sprayed this gawdawful mix on to test the self effects.** _ > [@](#): > > _**Immediately got a very, very heavy masculine feel… actually wanted to snort and stomp my feet (or was that pound on my shield with my sword? - RAWR). My body felt totally ready for battle. This is so different from my normal, sensual, airy-fairy feel.**_ > > _ **I got a low-down, dirty buzz from it. And interestingly, P79 did not run away with it, it just intensified the hell out of that low down, digging-in-for-battle feeling.** _ Next time throw a little TAL and /or -none in with that, will ya? Oh, and don’t forget to warn me first…and everybody else. > [@](#): > > _ **Okay, so after 15 minutes I can definitely say this is a very heavy, earth-bound, masculine feel. I decided to try to lighten it up with some Meo-Est and 10 mcg more TAF.** _ I don’t yet have meo-est, so I can’t speak to that. Though I wouldn’t have chosen more TAF to lighten it up. Lordy, no. I know that definitely wouldn’t work for me. I would, more likely, choose a softener like EST, TAH, a-nol or even P86. To lighten, maybe some TAC or TAA /Shine. > [@](#): > > \ ***It feels like the mix is a little frustrated… clipped wings. Oh, my Gawd! It isn’t clipped wings at all. 😮 It is tunnelling-- really down low. I feel SEX in my legs, in my lower belly, in my lower back and the big muscles in my butt… I wanna move! This is so odd, my head wants to fly. My body wants to dig in and move hard.** \* Hmm, seems to me that the “clipped wing” feeling is tied to the initial feel of the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), which can have that effect. Then it morphed (ran away) into the inhibition you later felt, what it’s known for, motivated by the tunneling (grounding) of the P80 backed up by the intense drive, “I wanna move!”, of the P79. TAF contributes heavily to the flying head thing, it’s an amplifier, in more ways than one. You describe it as flyng and my head was spinning. Sounds like we were kinda in the same orbit. Outta this world? > [@](#): > > _ **Okay, I was overwhelmed, so I layed down to rest. This was a definite OD situation and way too heavy. I won’t be doing that again!** _ Well, kudos to you for doing it once! You _deserve_ a rest. > [@](#): > > _ **Oh, one other thing - this mix has a sadistic feel to it. That might be the frustration of the mix with no target… or it may be that it is lucky I had no target… heh!** _ Makes sense for you to feel the frustration of being unable to complete the..um…task. I mean what’s a girl to do with all that desire to tunnel and dig and _moooove…and fly_! Mkay, now you need to try it with/on _the hubby_. You think your head was flying when you used it alone? Spray some of that on him and the rest of you is likely to follow. What? 🙄 😃 > [@diane999](#): > > _ **The dig in deep, intensity, and soldier stuff… that can’t be coincidence!** _ 😮 Ah, yep. Been there and done that. Ah, nope. 😉 😮 Hey, you’ve got a _real_ soldier to try it on! Hut one! Just how crazy are you, missy? Well, you’ve sufficiently worn me out, Di, at least until later. Whew, doggies. Bella ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/5 "2008-12-16T14:20:01Z")
Okay - I repped her for you Bella. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/6 "2008-12-16T15:14:12Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > _ **Okay - I repped her for you Bella.** _ Thanks BH, I can use the help. Do you do windows? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/7 "2008-12-16T18:29:49Z")
LOL. You know me - I am a one-stop shop. Helps if there is something interesting on the other side of the windows though … ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/8 "2008-12-17T08:52:43Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > _ **Helps if there is something interesting on the other side of the windows though …** _ Here’s lookin’ at _you,_ kid. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/9 "2008-12-18T04:17:36Z")
I nominate Diane as Woman Tester of the… Quarter. Wow, she’s done a lot of creative mixing! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/10 "2008-12-18T04:46:26Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > _ **I nominate Diane as Woman Tester of the… Quarter. Wow, she’s done a lot of creative mixing!** _ I second that nomination! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/11 "2008-12-18T16:45:57Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > I nominate Diane as Woman Tester of the… Quarter. Wow, she’s done a lot of creative mixing! > [@Bella](#): > > I second that nomination! 😉 Wow! You ladies are awesome! Thank you! I have been busy! I haven’t cooked dinner in two weeks! The boys are yowling for my attention and are threatening to run away from home! The housework is suffering! (Where did I put that bottle of [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/)/TAF?) Thank goodness I’m wearing so much Est or hubby might seriously consider divorcing me…! 😃 Diane ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 10:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/12 "2008-12-19T10:29:02Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Here’s lookin’ at _you,_ kid. I dunno - Ima a little scary lookin’ - I bet I would hear the sound of a safety clicking to off and the siren a dozen cop cars if you saw me at the window even with a squeegie in my hands … > [@ariadne](#): > > I nominate Diane as Woman Tester of the… Quarter. Wow, she’s done a lot of creative mixing! > [@Bella](#): > > I second that nomination! 😉 Okay we have a majority voting yes in this thread! > [@diane999](#): > > I have been busy! I haven’t cooked dinner in two weeks! > > Thank goodness I’m wearing so much Est or hubby might seriously consider divorcing me…! From a guy’s perspective - just keep the _other_ appetite fed and you should be okay for at least the short term … lol. Besides, hubby only knows where the dining room is and not the kitchen … ? I do a lot of the cooking at our place. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/13 "2008-12-19T14:35:55Z")
I had to debate between this post and her challange post for nomination and I chose the challange, Not to take anything away from this one though. So take a look your nominated 😃 Yeah Tisha ---
**Author:** ![lifesgood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b77776/32.png) [@lifesgood](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifesgood)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/14 "2008-12-22T18:37:23Z")
I’ll third that nomination…I’ve been taking a lot of notes from Diane’s posts on what to try out next. Thanks Diane! ---
**Author:** ![lifesgood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b77776/32.png) [@lifesgood](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifesgood)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p83-p79-od/23941/15 "2008-12-22T18:38:49Z")
Just did my first rep ever, cheers to you Diane!