# P80 + P97 + high none - what at surprise!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 15, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897 "2011-04-15T21:52:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/21 "2011-09-28T17:26:17Z")

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that´s for the start …

later you reapp … and reapp … then you need the higher amounts of P97/P96

with the P86 the lowest working dose with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) ( to keep the balance ) will be 40mcg

optimum dose with 20mcg P83 will be 60mcg P86

sry ..when it´s a bit confusing …

**Pago**

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**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/22 "2011-09-30T14:14:20Z")

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> [@Pagodeiro](#):
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> that´s for the start …
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> later you reapp … and reapp … then you need the higher amounts of P97/P96
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> with the P86 the lowest working dose with P83 ( to keep the balance ) will be 40mcg
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> optimum dose with 20mcg P83 will be 60mcg P86
> 
> sry ..when it´s a bit confusing …
> 
> **Pago**

and for my last question what was your application points for each of the products was it all layered on the around the neck area and his that ok

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**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/23 "2012-01-03T22:11:40Z")

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SOOOOOOOOO Pago is this still your most hard hitting mix 🙂

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/24 "2012-01-03T22:46:11Z")

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> [@hillcat](#):
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> SOOOOOOOOO Pago is this still your most hard hitting mix 🙂

Looool …

HI … have you tryed it out yet ??

Yes it´s still one of the best .. coz it causes women to take action and you attract the real hot ones with this mix !

Concerning attraction hits i´ve not seen much what can keep up with it …

good thing with the P80 mix is that it works all the night .. if you reapp nicely …

that´s where other mixes are on the weak side ..

Cheers,

**Pago**

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**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/25 "2012-01-05T01:56:11Z")

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hey pago.

I have tryied it works real good if i stay in one spot and not move around.

Can you tell me if i have it right

## Step 1 (all applied to neck)

2 spray of TheEdge unscented  
60 mcg of P86  
20 mcg of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)  
10 mcg of P79  
100 mcg of MeoEst  
50 mcg of P97

minutes later in the club add P80 (40 mcg) TO NECK over everything else

## Step 2 (1 hour later)

P80 (40 mcg) TO NECK over none

## Step 3 (1 hour later)

P97 (50 mcg)  
1 spray of TheEdge to neck

## Step 4 (1 hour later)

P80 (40 mcg) TO NECK over none

Is this right or do i have it all wrong any seems to work real nice

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/26 "2012-01-05T15:03:26Z")

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YAY … you´re doing great !!

after some time i used the mix i was able to tell by the effects when it was time to reapply the different stuff …

you could reapply some None stuff as well .. with the P97 .. the P80 seems to create some mega diffusion on the other molecules …

what kinda effects did you see … can you tell us a bit about your experiences with that mix ?

Cheers,

**Pago**

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**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/27 "2012-01-05T18:52:19Z")

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Hello Pago,

At the time i did not have P97 i substituted for P96 and did not have MeoEst.  
And as for TheEdge i had substituted for IMPI Red.

I received both this week and will test with the correct formula.

There his definite IOI women are very much into you. Did not see them open me up. But then again i am still learning with the mix. Also i was missing some of the OMmmmmp of MeoEst and P97

You defenitly need to stay in place because this does not do well if you move around so i would say if your that type this is the definite winner.

I will test again this time with the right solution and get back to you on this

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/28 "2012-01-05T19:04:45Z")

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Heya Hillcat …

Great thing that they´ve restocked the P97 (hope you grabbed a big bottle before they limited it )

Impi Red is pretty good to start with at the mix ..

but you smell like hell if you reapp it steady over the evening .. i´ve been mostly working with an Edge gel pack … did use an entire one over the evening ( no jokes )

With P96 the mix is more on the romantic side .. you´re going to see way more with the P97 !!

I told you earlier that you can leave out the Meo-Est … but it enhances the mix greatly …  
It´s not a key ingredient like the P80 or the none stuff … or the P97/P96

Women will not open you .. but they will send you that much approach invitations with that mix that it´s hard not to score ..

Can´t say what is causing the … do no move .. thing ..

but i suspect it´s the P80 …

this mix is not for Dancefloor Game … it´s for Bargame .. if you´re into hanging out in Music bar´s .. without a Dancefloor but with a DJ and good Club Music .. that´s the thing to go ..

It´s fantastic for places where People don´t move too much … and it´s great to hit on pretty female Bartenders … heheheh

**Pago**

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/29 "2012-01-05T23:05:21Z")

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I’m a BIG fan of P97 too. I’ll have to give this mix a go.

I like what I have been reading here 🙂

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**Author:** ![hillcat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ebca7d/32.png) [@hillcat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillcat)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/30 "2012-01-06T00:24:38Z")

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i got to say that this mix and 5d A314 + Tuth are by far my favorite mixes.

BUT Pagos mix hits harder than anything i have seen so far i just got to get use to the reaplication but thats it

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**Author:** ![cyto](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cyto/32/1774_2.png) [@cyto](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cyto)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-p97-high-none-what-at-surprise/49897/31 "2012-08-17T21:30:15Z")

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I am experimenting with a few putatives now but I noticed that many of these mones have been out of stock for a while.  
When are P86, P96, etc. going to be restocked? I’ve also noticed on some of the putatives and experimones like P97, TAL and TAH say there are 30 ML bottles available but none appear in the drop down box. What’s the availability for those?  
Thanks in advance. It’s fun to test out different combos and this would be on my future list if they were in stock.

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