# P80 question for the ladies **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 11, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-question-for-the-ladies/23869 "2008-12-11T19:45:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 12
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-question-for-the-ladies/23869/12 "2008-12-15T20:33:31Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > Another note about P80. Interesting also because, according to a post Jasmin made, it’s an estrogen based molecule. (I’ll dig around a bit and see if I can find that post.) Now GirlyQ’s…what do we make of that? Actually, estrogen is one of the major breakdown products of testosterone. When the brain’s hypothalamus tries to regulate a man’s testosterone levels, it does so not by measuring testosterone directly but by measuring estrogen (estradiol) levels. Not the way I would have designed it, but God didn’t ask me. Anyway, P80 from estrogen may not be so paradoxical afterall. And I wouldn’t be surprised if P80 is arousing for women, too. > [@Bella](#): > > Di, when Wolf wears P80 we hold it at 7.5mcg and it still packs a wallop. Interesting that 7.5mcg is the exact amount I keep coming back to, as well – in spite of the fact that it’s a pretty inconvenient number. > [@diane999](#): > > It’s a bit frustrating of a mix, because it makes me feel so sexy, but makes hubby mostly just a big cuddle bear… it kinda lacks consistent follow through, even layered with a ton of cops… heh. That seems to be the concern with EST. The obvious choices might be P79 and androstenone, but I think they disrupt the sensuality we are looking for. [Visionary seems to concur](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-thoughts-smiling-and-pleasantness/23947/1) on the P79. I guess you are hoping that P80 will solve this? I think it should. I’m gonna stay tuned to find out what you discover, Diane. Other possibilties might be adding more [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) or (very carefully) trying small amounts of P81. I experimented with P81 in increments of about 1.0mcg. Diane, you’ve got TAC in your mix on the post above. Elsewhere you have used TAA in similar mixes. Which do you like better (for yourself/for your husband) and how do you experience the difference between TAC and TAA in these mixes? --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-question-for-the-ladies/23869)._