# P80 question for the ladies

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**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 11, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-question-for-the-ladies/23869 "2008-12-11T19:45:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-question-for-the-ladies/23869/18 "2009-02-27T13:00:02Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> I am a little confused but very intrigued, Now are you saying this is the reaction you got from your husband when \*\*you \*\*wore P80 or did you have him wear it ?
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> See P80 is a highly masculine, Its virile, Authoritive, makes a man feel like a man…Essence of men, On a women its going to **send** that signal or something close to it so I am surprised he was turned on by this.  
> **When I used P80 I got more of a suspicious reaction from my husband similar to what men get when they used copulins around there wives. He smelled man on me and did not like it one bit.** While warrens mix has one reaction when worn by men it shouldnt work the same way when worn by a women. Remember these molecule’s enhance what is already there. Send signals out about who we are.
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> **Oddly enough my best friend who is a male had the same reaction and assumed it was not my husband. This made me wonder if there is a scent marking effect. Can a man tell which male you belong to in a clan from a pheromone that is left on us by our men. Self effects for me are a feeling of connection to the elements if that makes sense to you. A sort of grounding of self. But it feels to heavy to manlike for me to use on myself**. Made me uninterested in having anyone touch me. I wish my hubby would try mones like Bella’s husband does. He is such a poop when it comes to that although he does see the effects when I am wearing them he still has no interest in them.
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> I think used in tiny amounts of maybe 1.0 mcg it can be very useful in a womens alpha mix something like MX134 or the old womens test alpha pack may have have it but as you move into higher amount on a women it drowns out the feminine aspects of a women. Defiantly a steering molecule for female mixes but not a molecule that I would use as a base.
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> Tisha

> [@tisha23](#):
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> Well for me P80 on its own felt very masculine. I was pushy bossy but not in a mean way. I want things done my way, in my time frame with it. I love your sparta analogy. I didn’t like the reactions I got with it on its own in testing. **My husband and my best friend (who is male) were both suspicious of me almost like they smelled threating male on me.** My husband also assumed I was PMSing cause he said I was acting like a naggy bitch. LOL
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> When I mix with it I use it in work or alpha mixes. It give the mix some drive and impermeability without going over the top. In my alpha mixes I use only 20 to 30mcg total in the 30ML mix solution so I am using very little per spray. Course I have other pheromones in there as well so I am just using P80 to steer those. I have never used it in a sexual mix
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> Tisha

**Might Tisha’s P80 experiences above with her husband and best male friend be not so much a case of suspicion but rather a result of the ‘critical and cautious mindset’ created by this molecule?**

> [@P80... clever grace note](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-clever-grace-note/296/1):
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> A long deep whoof of P80. Not as immediately specific or blast offish as the big guns of moneland… heady and stimulating in the verbal expressive tangent… somewhat in the wisdom/thought provoking zone of MEO-EST, contemplative perhaps ? Up contemplative versus Down contemplative… more afterglow than furious asspounding, I’m not gripped by desires, things sort of flow around me while my mind revs a touch higher, a bit more attentive… so far, a vote as a presence mone… a “state of being” refinem…

tacitus (April 18, 2006):  
“ P80… clever grace note  
A long deep whoof of P80 . Not as immediately specific or blast offish as the big guns of moneland… heady and stimulating in the verbal expressive tangent… somewhat in the wisdom/thought provoking zone of MEO-EST , contemplative perhaps ? Up contemplative versus Down contemplative… more afterglow than furious asspounding, I’m not gripped by desires, things sort of flow around me while my mind revs a touch higher, **a bit more attentive…** so far, a vote as a presence pheromone… a “state of being” refinement…”

> [@P80... clever grace note](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-clever-grace-note/296/4):
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> Walking around baked in P80 Hit the streets with shnurts of P80 on the brain… I’m feeling male, groundedly, solidly male, like my male identity has turned up 2 or 3 notches… however, I’m not feeling childishly male, or petulant, or turfy/jerky, or pretend to be GI Joe in civvies who needs to eye fuck everybody in range to prove his dick exists… no… that is sad, very sad… like watching Ultimate Fighters beat each other to bloody pulps to be the king of which hill did you say ? No… that’s a weak …

tacitus (April 18, 2006):  
“ Walking around baked in P80  
Hit the streets with shnurts of P80 on the brain… I’m feeling male, groundedly, solidly male, like my male identity has turned up 2 or 3 notches… however, I’m not feeling childishly male, or petulant, or turfy/jerky, or pretend to be GI Joe in civvies who needs to eye fuck everybody in range to prove his dick exists… no… that is sad, very sad… like watching Ultimate Fighters beat each other to bloody pulps to be the king of which hill did you say ? No… that’s a weak male identity posturing like a strong one… compensating for a hoard of insecurities nagging away in the background…

Thankfully, P80 is the other kind of male strength, solid on its feet, appreciative without being possesive, no need to put on a show… a lot of pure being energy… **almost you might say, a form of “law enforcement psychology”… very aware, very conscious of boundary, no acting like an idiot o.k. ? We know by now that that is a waste of precious life force** …”

> [@before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/53):
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> I’ve tested P80 by itself and [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)+P76+P77+P78 in a custom mix… P80 is strongly male although I do not think as erotic as P79… at least in me it is significantly “male being” versus P79s’s “male doing”… there doesn’t seem to be too much to prove, you just kind of are male… although in a deep way… this may vary a lot when added into other things at minute levels… I feel really focused and clear and complely uninterested in dithering around… P75-P78 mix can be also in that direction, where the P78…

tacitus (July 21, 2006):  
“I’ve tested P80 by itself and P75 + P76 + P77 + P78 in a custom mix… P80 is strongly male although I do not think as erotic as P79 … at least in me it is significantly “male being” versus P79s’s “male doing”… there doesn’t seem to be too much to prove, you just kind of are male… although in a deep way… this may vary a lot when added into other things at minute levels… **I feel really focused and clear and complely uninterested in dithering around** …”

> [@P83... a nice little empathogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/27):
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> interesting you noticed this facet of some of the P series… the cool objective sizing up… really felt that in spades with P80 when the dosage got high… my guess is that higher ranges of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) may have this mind clearing effect as well… and yes, some of them do add in this focus… so you’re more aware than usual of things you might let slip by… like behaviors in significant others… you might try lower dose ranges where P83 sxeems to have a warmer quality, like maybe 10 mu maximum… I’m often shocked …

tacitus (November 18, 2006):  
“interesting you noticed this facet of some of the P series… **the cool objective sizing up… really felt that in spades with P80 when the dosage got high** …”

> [@P103 alone while sick with the flu: uplifted and giddy, but sexless](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-is-phun-whee-mindless-happiness/2605):
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> and you’ll hear no complaints from me… 25 mu of P103… and bear in mind I presently feel like a poorly enbalmed corpse no thanks to a late blooming influenza… came in today thinking, damn shite feel like doom and corrupt filth, opened my toybox from androtix, and squirted a shot of P103 on my wrist… no other thing… and yep, still feel like damn shite, but uplifted joyous damn shite… fairly sexless, no primal go go go in the lower chakrae, nor any pit bull gouch… well, the flu could be taking me d…

tacitus (March 22, 2007):  
“…sometime like a dot of yin in a field of yang, j **ust the littlest bit of of a P80 can sometimes add a solidity and realism** …”

> [@P80 Feedback](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p80-feedback/19106/1):
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> I purchased a 2mg bottle of P80 @ 10mcg/spray, and have selectively tested this experimone in professional/business environments based on others’ experiences with and observations on P80 having imparted a ‘serious authority’ that A314 naturally lends to. Here, P80 was tested on its own, and A314’s known effects used as a baseline reference, with the obvious intent to not only compare but at some point augment A314’s use with P80 as well. Application was initially made to bare skin, but diffuse…

Sandalo (September 8, 2008):  
“ P80 Feedback

…Application was initially made to bare skin, but diffused too strong and fast to be of any use - one hour at most, **with a distinctive sense (self-effect) of both ‘critical’ and ‘cautious’ toward whatever task or topic was at hand. This should not be confused with some sort of trepidation; rather, an earnest interest - or, intensity - in ‘getting it right’…**

P80 conveys neither sexual nor social proclivities, per se. It does, though, project a certain stature that can become brutish at higher doses (tested up to ten sprays with fixatives, for 100mcg total) in its delivery, whereupon the ‘scientific’ productivity of the lower doses is upstaged, if not usurped, by the ‘stature’ effect at the higher doses; the latter of which becoming simply nonproductive and even off putting…”

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