# P82 in its current form may be a dud but... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 14, 2007, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-in-its-current-form-may-be-a-dud-but/3118 "2007-04-14T05:11:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-in-its-current-form-may-be-a-dud-but/3118/1 "2007-04-14T05:11:01Z")
The problem may be to do with diffusion. I put many sprays of it around my face and can definitely smell a strong scent to it for up to a minute or two. After that I smell absolutely nothing. And it isn’t ‘smelling fatigue’ either because with other mones and other putatives I definitely get a whiff of them once in a while after application for at least 30 mins. With P82 I get no absolutely no whiffs of that strong initial smell. Maybe P82 needs to have fixatives to slow down its diffusion. Same thing goes for P77 which has no results either on the forum. Alternatively I may be way off and P82 may really be a dud! Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2007, 8:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-in-its-current-form-may-be-a-dud-but/3118/2 "2007-04-14T08:04:05Z")
Hmm.. I wonder. I should dip into the compendium of putative results I have and see what non-forum testers have been reporting. Hmm! Hearing they may be duds makes me want to try them like THAT much more just to prove the theory wrong. Isn’t it funny how human nature works? ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-in-its-current-form-may-be-a-dud-but/3118/3 "2007-04-15T03:48:27Z")
Yes Jas I know about human nature being like that - prove me wrong! I mean some of the putatives had to be ‘duds’ I guess but it could be other factors as well - maybe P82 (and P77?) need fixatives to slow down their diffusion, maybe much more of them is needed to get an ‘effect’ (say 1000 mcg), maybe their ‘effect’ only comes out in combination with another molecule… who knows… The only mentions of P82 ‘results’ on the forum so far are pasted below… > [@Hey Dolly,what shall we wear today?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-dolly-what-shall-we-wear-today/3036/32): > > I tried P82 the other day with absolutely no results. Today I tried P101 and I didnt like it. 3 spray wrists and neck. I didnt get that happy feeling at all. First few hours I noticed men being a little odd. They would delibratly try to piss me off or antagonize me. Half way into the day I started to feel a little sad. Not crying sad just sort of blue. I gave myself a few blasts of MX135 and felt better but not as good as I feel when I use MX135 alone. Tisha Tisha23 (April 2007): “I tried [P82](https://pheromonelabs.com/) the other day with absolutely no results…” > [@before we move on, could we review the PUTATIVES ?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/before-we-move-on-could-we-review-the-putatives/476/78): > > Visionary, For p76, I’m thinking that the ideal amount might be somewhere between 30 mcgs and 60 mcgs. At around 60 mcg I kinda get the vibe off people that is very similar to the vibe that I get if I overshot my ideal -none dose, but not enough to start repelling people like the plague. Everyone is tense. Perhaps a bit of LT or perhaps IH would loosen people’s tounges to give me more of an idea on what is running through their heads when I have p76 on. At the moment p81 does seem to have … SwingerMD (July 27, 2006): “…Currently [p82](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is turning into another head scratcher. I even tried it at work. I started with just 60mcg then added about 4 sprays of LT 2 hours later…” ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-in-its-current-form-may-be-a-dud-but/3118/4 "2007-04-15T06:07:29Z")
Yeah, hehe, and I was dipping into some of my older phero journals, and I was explaining to myself how I was befuzzled at how I couldn’t notice any real change with P82. But yeah! Maybe we _should_ check out extreme dosages, or testing it somewhere where there’s a _lot_ of targets, like a hoppin’ girly store or a movie theatre. I wonder what we could tell from the molecule structure? Harris selected this molecule for a reason, and now I’m wondering what he wanted to test when this putative was created. Oh, and SwingerMD, COME BACK! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-in-its-current-form-may-be-a-dud-but/3118/5 "2007-04-15T10:19:26Z")
I have used it twice now with no results at all. I dont smell the mones in it. It smells like straight alcohol to me. The first time I used 3 sprays neck, chest, wrists. The second time I used 5 sprays in same locations except I added one to my devils horns. I will up the dosage more this week at work and see what happens. Tisha