# P82 - solo **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 6, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-solo/30443 "2009-07-06T12:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-solo/30443/1 "2009-07-06T12:36:56Z")
All sprays are at 12.5 mcgs. No self effects. Day 1 - went to visit friends in OY at noon. 2 sprays before going into the house. 2 sprays about one half hour later. Nothing unusual to note. ☹ Left at 5pm and visited Watering Hole N. Put on 2 sprays to forearms and sat in nice upwind spot. Another 2 sprays around 6pm. Nothing unusual to note. Day 2 - 2 sprays 7:15am before breakfast at Diner I. 2 sprays at 9:15am before physical therapy. 2 sprays around 1pm at Watering Hole N. 4 sprays at 3pm. 4 sprays at 4:15pm Left around 6pm Nothing unusual to note. ☹ Ordered another bottle at higher mcgs. Will test again later. ---
**Author:** ![courtland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@courtland](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/courtland)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-solo/30443/2 "2009-07-06T19:43:10Z")
Maybe the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) themselves dont work for you. Try different ones. What pheromones did you use? ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-solo/30443/3 "2009-07-07T12:55:36Z")
Hi Courtland, I use very many phero products, but when I am testing a P or MX I use it all by itself (solo) and try to observe behavior in others that may be attributed to it. It is difficult, especially with a severe case of male pattern blindness (MPB) but I do my best. This one appears to me that it might be a dud - or, more likely, I just don’t see what it is doing. So I ordered another bottle at higher mcgs. Will test again later. If you click on the solo tag after the last post on the page, you will see some other observations that I have made of Ps and MXs all by themselves. Jedi ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-solo/30443/4 "2009-07-24T11:52:04Z")
ARRGGHH!!! New to-go bottle at 100 mcgs per spray. Crank it up!! 8:05am at work in cubie land - 1 spray on forearm and smeared on the other. Get to work. Some shop talk with co-workers. Busy with work. 10:00am - 1 spray on back of hand and smeared on the other and across my jaw line. Go to break room. See more co-workers some talk about shop and some about my recovery with new knee. Nothing un-ordinary. Some ringing in my ears. 11:00am - 1 spray to back of hand and smeared on the other. I’m still not observing anything unusual. Ringing in ears is gone. Got busy with work and almost forgot about lunch. (Focused?). 3pm - 1 spray to back of hand and smeared on the other and jaw line. 4:10pm - 1 spray on forearm and smeared on the other. No one came to see me. I didn’t go to see anyone either. Made observation that I’m fine being a hermit. 😕 5:00pm - 1 spray on forearm and smeared on the other for the ride to the Watering Hole. Got caught in a downpour at the mill - was a little concerned but not overly paranoid with the wipers doing double time as everyone was 15 mph under the speed limit. 5:30pm - arrived at Watering Hole N and applied 2 sprays on forearm and back of hand - smeared on the other and jaw line. Nothing unusual from the patrons - just another day. 7:30pm - went home, took a shower and went to bed. BOO HISS! 😠 I still don’t have much of a clue as to what this one does, if anything. I did not observe any bad self effects like some ODs - and the ringing in my ears went away early on - and may not have been related. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-solo/30443/5 "2009-09-09T03:31:26Z")
Jedi\_Nights was good enough to share his P82 with me. Thanks, Jedi. I think I am beginning to see what this stuff does! I started out with a togo of 100mcg P82. Next I am going to dilute it down. I hope to get good results with lower concentrations. **First Experience** I have started off searching for self effects. When I first sprayed _100mcg_, I noticed within a couple of minutes a subtle stimulating energy. Could have been my imagination or simply a reaction to the Akuto scent. Beyond the Akuto, which I experience as pretty overwhelming, I was not able to detect any P82 specific smell. Nothing was happening and I impatiently added 20mcg MEO-EST about three minutes later. Some people think the MEO-EST enhances the effects of other pheromones. Personally, I have never gotten any predictable results from MEO-EST alone, though I do notice it definitely adds something to mixes. It took quite awhile before I noticed anything. I think the effects were there; I just didn’t know what to look for. This P82 is pretty subtle unless you are in a situation where its powers are relevant. Over the next maybe three hours I felt calm and detached. It was hard to really throw myself into anything. At first I thought of this as a submissive feeling – though there was absolutely nothing masochistic about it. I was very intent on taking care of myself, physically, emotionally, spiritually. “_ **Calm and detached** _” I believe is the correct description. I also experienced a _warm empathy_, which I think is very paradoxical concurrent with feeling detached. It reminded me of the dissociated state I attribute to TAK, only warmer – caring from a safe distance. I would describe this as kind of a Saintly quality. You know the saying, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” So often compassionate people just become enablers to folks with addictions and other bad habits. OTOH those who profess “tough love” are too often just hiding their sadistic motivations. P82 would seem to be the answer: detached enough to avoid getting hooked into becoming part of the problem; warm, empathic, caring enough to refuse to take unfair advantage. Maybe we can spray psychoanalysts with this stuff. Too often they cop a real arrogant, contemptful attitude toward people they think they can see through. **Second Experience** I could feel it building up all day. I kept asking the woman, “What do you want?” And, of course, got no actionable responses. Finally, that evening, _when she didn’t get what she wanted_, she blew up. We yelled at each other… blah, blah, blah… Finally I just went and lay down, too infuriated to do anything productive, too angry to actually sleep. I planned to lie there for an hour and calm myself. I had things to get done that night. As I lay there, my mind racing, I wondered what P82 might do for this state. I would have preferred to just get drunk (or do some heavy downers if I had any), but I had stuff to do and I was too mad to think straight. I sprayed myself with 100mcg P82, no other pheromones. Within five minutes, I was up sitting at my desk, functioning at a high level. Cured. What a magnificent drug – I mean _pheromone!_ It has occured to me that this might be a good replacement for IFM. I have used TAK to good effect along with, or in lieu of, IFM when confronted with raging hormonal bitchiness. I will be testing P82 in this and other situations with other people in the future. I recall the “Instant Back Door Magic” post. IFM can apparently allow a woman to feel safe and get into things she otherwise wouldn’t. I do not think P82 will have this advantage. It has that detached quality that makes it hard to get emotionally involved in things (including rage attacks). It’ll probably be good for that time of the month, but not so good as a seduction pheromone. A final note for now: I usually like the Akuto scent alright – in A314, for example. In the P82 it is, for some reason, just awfully annoying! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-solo/30443/6 "2009-09-09T07:22:17Z")
I kinda figured from the first post that this was a more focused and emotionless [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Thanks for confirming that Warren. I think this would be great in a work mix and great for those who have just gone through a break up 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Nights](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jedi_nights/32/346_2.png) [@Jedi\_Nights](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jedi_Nights)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-solo/30443/7 "2009-09-10T03:09:43Z")
Thank you, Warren. I’m looking forward to your reports on the others that I was unable to discern. Bravo! I might have to get me another bottle! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-solo/30443/8 "2009-12-01T03:50:28Z")
A few weeks ago, a close family member had what was potentially an extremely serious medical problem. Things appear to have resolved themselves nicely, but at the time, I was very stressed out. **Third Experience** One evening when I was especially distraught, I decided to try P82 to calm myself and focus my mind. I added it in 25mcg increments and took notes. Here are my notes - **25** mcg P82 - Not much of anything. **50** mcg P82 - Slightly calmer **75** mcg P82 - Mild orthostatic hypotension when I get up. Definitely calmer. Heart is not pounding so loudly. Mind is still racing. **100** mu P82 - Calmer still. Almost capable of faling asleep when I lie down. Orthostatic hypotension when I get up. **125** mu P82 - I feel a slower, steadier pounding from my heart. I am capable of focusing on simple chores. **150** mu P82 - I am sitting at the computer, pretty much back to normal. **Additional Observations** In two previous threads on P82 nobody could find any effects: > [@P82 in its current form may be a dud but...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p82-in-its-current-form-may-be-a-dud-but/3118): > > The problem may be to do with diffusion. I put many sprays of it around my face and can definitely smell a strong scent to it for up to a minute or two. After that I smell absolutely nothing. And it isn’t ‘smelling fatigue’ either because with other mones and other putatives I definitely get a whiff of them once in a while after application for at least 30 mins. With P82 I get no absolutely no whiffs of that strong initial smell. Maybe P82 needs to have fixatives to slow down its diffusion. Same… > [@Does P82 Do Anything Besides Smell Bad?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-p82-do-anything-besides-smell-bad/26223): > > I have an order for P82 on it’s way and should be here today. I believe it was a mistake and I meant to order the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) I’ve heard so much about. All I’ve read so far is that P82 smells bad for a minute or two but that’s all it does-no effects on anyone. Threads I’ve read for days now, have nothing definitive. Anyone who can pass any and all information including some positive experiences; doses and types of women it attracks if any. Thank you this means a lot to me.frowning I am convinced that P82 does something important and I hope it is not completely overshadowed by the sexier pheromones. I am confident there is value for those of us who are not necessarily on the edge of a nervous breakdown. Unfortunately, it does seem to need relatively high doses. When 2.5mcg is more than enough, pheromones seem to be a real bargain, but in the case of P82 where 100mcg is a reasonable dose, continuing to pay by the microgram starts to hurt. In the above example 150mcg appeared to be optimum, but it was an extreme example where I was seriously pumping adrenalin. There have been times when I felt noticeable effects at 25mcg. I have been playing with P82 a lot recently, primarily self-effects – I expect effects on others would be even more subtle! This is not the stuff of which violent revolutions are made. It is good for difficult, stressful situations which cannot be avoided or changed. It has the potential to make one fairly submissive or serene, the patience of Jobe in a bottle. In a stronger role, it would seem to nurture an enlightened “tough love,” neither hostile intolerance nor knee-jerk enabling, compassionate detachment.