# P83... a nice little empathogen **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 3, 2006, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646 "2006-09-03T19:02:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2006, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/21 "2006-10-06T01:22:42Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > I guess.. I have NO idea who the up-to-date equivalent of Clint would be..any ideas? I thought of that, and there isen’t really a person who is consistantly that on and off screen, that I can think of. But we have phero’s, we probably can make one … ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/22 "2006-10-26T19:36:07Z")
This [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) sounds very interesting. I’m torn between experimenting with it, and TUTH… ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/23 "2006-11-11T05:39:02Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > P83 is sexy by itself… I found it was a good orgasm enhancer… sorta took it to another level. and P88 is an “awareness enhancer” … you will be unusually aware of facial nuances… put them together and you should be waaay focused…😛 Anymore more insights on the putatives? I am going crazy here waiting for my [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), P80 and a fillup of P79!!! Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/24 "2006-11-11T10:16:08Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > I guess.. I have NO idea who the up-to-date equivalent of Clint would be..any ideas? Perhaps Hugh Jackman (when he’s playing Wolverine) ? ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2006, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/25 "2006-11-11T17:06:59Z")
ill be playing with 83 in due time… ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2006, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/26 "2006-11-18T17:03:48Z")
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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/27 "2006-11-19T03:56:14Z")
interesting you noticed this facet of some of the P series… the cool objective sizing up… really felt that in spades with P80 when the dosage got high… my guess is that higher ranges of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) may have this mind clearing effect as well… and yes, some of them do add in this focus… so you’re more aware than usual of things you might let slip by… like behaviors in significant others… you might try lower dose ranges where P83 sxeems to have a warmer quality, like maybe 10 mu maximum… I’m often shocked at how low the dosage can go with some of these and still impart a particular spin to events, or… you could balance the P83 with a warming alpha-nol…😉 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/28 "2006-11-19T04:05:03Z")
P.S. there is a strong probability that your dear husband was also “activated” by the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)… if he has a naturally aggressive personality this may have been enhanced… I have a naturally sexual personality (bonobo versus chimpanzee heritage ?) so possible this came out differently in me… then there is the relationship dynamic, and how that is influenced by P83 as well… and how your perceptions are shaped by all of the above… ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/29 "2006-11-19T04:30:17Z")
Carrie excellent posting (i may have to give you rep points when I find out how to), I think you are onto something. Take a look at an earlier post in this thread from SwingerMD that I have placed below. P83 may be a powerful ‘business [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/)’ if nothing else. Tell me Carrie, do you feel at all sexually aroused from wearing P83 alone or do you feel your partner is more sexually aroused from it? Maybe one night try a high dose (100 mcg?) if you can afford to ‘waste it’. Visionary > [@SwingerMD](#): > > Second day on using p83 here. The feeling that I get from this one and the vibe that I get from other people can be summed up by part of the lyrics from a song: > > What you want. > Baby I got. > What you need. > Do you know I got it? > A’ll I’m askin’ > Is for a little respect when you come home (just a little bit). > > Yesturday, I wore about 60 mcg along with four drops of Pheros at a dance. Same thing today as I was running around doing errands. On Suday, I had a very long conversation with the ballroom cook on new laptop computers. She wanted my expert opinion on what new computers to get. Nothing noticable from any of the follows that I danced with yesturday, but I got approached by a few aspiring photographers (I’m a well known photographer on the swing dance scene.), wanting to know my opinion on equipment, techniques, etc . . . . > > As for today, I went into the Bose store to ask for replacement ear pads for my Triports. The service rep began by telling me how I can go to the website to order new earpads. After telling me this he said, “You know, on second thought . . . it’s my last day here . . . we normally don’t do this, but I’ll just get you some new ones.” > > Outside the mall I ran into a couple of swing dance follows that I knew and a local jazz saxaphonist (playing on the sidewalk). Within a few min, I found myself dancing with one of them amids the Labor Day traffic on the sidewalk. I was even asked if I teach dancing lessons (I don’t.). All in all, a very unusal day. I’ll try this out on my co-workers tomorrow. > > -SwingerMD ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/30 "2006-11-19T14:09:53Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > P.S. there is a strong probability that your dear husband was also “activated” by the P83… if he has a naturally aggressive personality this may have been enhanced… I have a naturally sexual personality (bonobo versus chimpanzee heritage ?) so possible this came out differently in me… then there is the relationship dynamic, and how that is influenced by P83 as well… and how your perceptions are shaped by all of the above… I do believe W was acted on by the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). He is very permeable to environmental influence, sensitive and psychic, and he responds quite a bit to my vibe, whether it’s pheromonally amped or not. I think that he _does_ have a naturally aggressive personality but it’s been damped down by circumstances and typically has only come out under pressure. For example, he was bullied as a kid, but morphed into a monster on the football field - all that adolescent rage found the perfect outlet! On P83 testing night, he behaved dominantly and aggressively (_not_ usual for him, except behind the wheel). His dancing was bold and sensual, which set him apart. The confidence he displayed garnered him more attention and respect than he gets when he’s his usual Minnesota-nice self. He seemed to get into a zone similar to where he goes when he’s onstage performing … on second thought, maybe he _was_ auditioning for K! P83 feels none-like to me; at least it makes me/us more dominant, edgy, impatient, uninhibited. I didn’t feel sexually aroused by wearing it alone (though I have before when wearing it with cops). W didn’t seem to be aroused by it either, though his morning-after erection was even more impressive than usual - no time to play, unfortunately! ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646/32 "2006-11-20T01:17:13Z")
Hey, us’n piggs need luv 2 like all things there is a subtle interplay of factors, sometimes the mones only bring out underlying tendencies, or focus the mind in certain ways, sometimes they are powerful behavior shapers… I use 'em a lot to help add in “soul layers” to my main relationship at the moment… we can break through a lot of murky unresolved stuff and get to some deep empathic places without having to get all drunky drunk or anything… the mones do allow for a purity of connection that leaves some strong positive imprints that add a whole lot to the day to day quality of being together… even when no mones are present, because we have the shared memories to refer to… however… there is this issue that psychologists call “emotional bedrock” … you have to have solid ground under your feet of emotional security, good self image, positive intention…🙂 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646.md?page=1)