# P83 and ladies moving in and then out of my personal space **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 19, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-ladies-moving-in-and-then-out-of-my-personal-space/48917 "2011-02-19T03:41:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-ladies-moving-in-and-then-out-of-my-personal-space/48917/1 "2011-02-19T03:41:20Z")
I have worn anywhere from 10mcg to 30mcg of p83 and most of the time with a spray of TUTH to clubs (see my club mixes thread below). When I have p83 on the ladies get in my personal space and want to dance with me. However, consistently I have had at least one lady, every night, walk away, right in the middle of dancing. Is it too much arousal or what? I have had combination’s of pheromones that have produced kissing, making out on the dance floor, etc. without the lady leaving because of arousal. I can’t seem to put a finger on exactly what it is doing to cause them to leave. Is it causing them to do something that they do not want to do? On one occasion when I had p83 on, I had a lady raise her shirt and ask me to feel her abs. On another occasion, when I number closed a lady with p83 on and called her several days later, she mentioned that a few ladies were fighting for my attention, which I did not notice then. I even tried to find a pattern, if it was due to the amount of p83 that I was wearing, but there is no consistency, it happens most of the time whether I have 10mcg, 15mcg, 20mcg or 30mcg on. It has been vexing me of late that I have decided to not wear it out to the club for a while. Anyone have a similar experience? [My personal rankings of various Club Mixes](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-personal-rankings-of-various-club-mixes/42714) * * * Consumer Line: [AMMO](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) , [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) , [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) , [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) , [Turn Up the heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) , [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) , Instant Jerk, [CTTM2](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) MX Series: MX297, MX301, MX330, MX391, MX392, MX394, MX395 Putatives: [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) , [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) , [P78](https://pheromonelabs.com/) , [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) , [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) , [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) , [P96](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-ladies-moving-in-and-then-out-of-my-personal-space/48917/2 "2011-02-19T14:41:00Z")
Sometimes [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is hit or miss I have found. When I use it sometimes I have similar results but I never get a girl to flake unless I want her to. Make sure that you convey the message you are laid back and looking to have a good time. Maybe you are not escalating correctly and are not building rapport and kino well? I make my interest known from the get go and initiate kino really fast. ---
**Author:** ![thebigQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@thebigQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thebigQ)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-ladies-moving-in-and-then-out-of-my-personal-space/48917/3 "2011-03-19T22:13:51Z")
> [@thebigQ](#): > > I even tried to find a pattern, if it was due to the amount of p83 that I was wearing, but there is no consistency, it happens most of the time whether I have 10mcg, 15mcg, 20mcg or 30mcg on. It has been vexing me of late that I have decided to not wear it out to the club for a while. Anyone have a similar experience? I think I have a handle on p83 especially around a spray of TUTH for me. I kept reducing the amount of p83 I was using till I was not experiencing the “withdrawals” by the ladies and found out that I should use no more than 2.5mcg to prevent this. 1.25mcg - 2.5mcg is best around a spray of TUTH. Now I get the ladies grabbing on to all parts of my body without the “withdrawals”. If I am not using a spray of TUTH at a club, then and only then can I up the p83 to above 10mcg. I hope this helps someone else. * * * Consumer Line: [AMMO](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) , [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) , [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) , [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) , [Turn Up the heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) , [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) , Instant Jerk, [CTTM2](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) MX Series: MX297, MX301, MX330, MX391, MX392, MX394, MX395 Putatives: [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) , [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) , [P78](https://pheromonelabs.com/) , [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) , [P86](https://pheromonelabs.com/) , [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) , [P96](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-ladies-moving-in-and-then-out-of-my-personal-space/48917/4 "2011-03-19T23:09:19Z")
How old are you, and what age ranges would you guess, are the targets that runs for the hills, Biggest of Qs? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-ladies-moving-in-and-then-out-of-my-personal-space/48917/5 "2011-03-20T04:25:02Z")
Show us a video of you dancin…that might be it 😛😛..kidding. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-ladies-moving-in-and-then-out-of-my-personal-space/48917/6 "2011-03-20T05:41:46Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > How old are you, and what age ranges would you guess, are the targets that runs for the hills, Biggest of Qs? > > Thanks! Same info I’d love to hear.