# P83 and pissomg off Bluebird's boyfriend **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 12, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417 "2009-09-12T22:33:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417/1 "2009-09-12T22:33:11Z")
A couple weeks ago, Bluebird came back to the after party. We were blasted with Spaceland. She and wifey went at it. Lots of fun. This is just a observation on last night at the coffee shop.. See: > [@Black Magic at the Coffee Shop, Weekly Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/black-magic-at-the-coffee-shop-weekly-journal/32378/12): > > Last night… Amazing, unexpected, and odd in some strange ways… So, its me, wifey, MichealRRR and Heretic777 going to the coffee shop last night. Before leaving, here is what we sprayed… I put on one shot of p83 to the neck and four shots of spaceland distributed on chest, wrists, neck. I wanted to spray wifey with just spaceland and mx289… So I hit her on the chest with one shot of Spaceland, but I realized I had accidentally picked up the Bnol 100mcg bottle… So, she got one spray of that,… Here’s the thing… We’re not interested in a female playmate for just sex. We want a real relationship. feelings, emotions, everything. We want honesty, integrity, and a true working towards goals together. Bluebird is smart, sexy, and has a mind like a steel trap. We want a romantic relationship that, even if its not forever, that we can take her on adventures across europe that she will be telling her grandchildren about… We care for her. Long story short: We had something special going with her, and then we didn’t see her for a year. Now she is back, and things are great. Except she has a boyfriend. Now, mind you, this is a boyfriend that is pretty much furniture or, even better, an accessory much like a purse. So last night I am wearing p83 and Spaceland, then on the way to the after party freshened up with a quarter spritz of TUTH and I took a shot of MX289. It was weird. She was still her flirty self, but there was an almost tragic romance vibe to it. Boyfriend sat on the couch. He was not happy with her flirtations, but thats to be expected. He is a boyfriend, but its not that serious, from what I can gather. She wears the pants and does whatever she wants, and he has to deal with it. Apparently, he has been very happy to do what he is told. Last night, he was agitated. He was not following her orders. Now, I follow no one’s orders myself, but this guy has a history of just kinda wanting to have a dom dominate him. Last night, not so. He was very, very irritated while she sat with me and caught me up on all that has transpired since her absence. I don’t think it will be long before boyfriend is out the door. Anyway, he is about 20. Could the TUTH or anything else I was wearing agitate him so? She doesn’t handle agitation very well, and it was really making her nervous. She doesn’t like anyone telling her what to do, and this guy normally keeps his mouth shut, but he was becoming very vocal. She did not like it. She wanted to share emotions with me, he wanted to pout and make her aware of it. Perhaps it was all the IO and IH that my friends were wearing? ---
**Author:** ![Triumphant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@Triumphant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Triumphant)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417/2 "2009-09-12T23:22:18Z")
Is it necessarily a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) thing? Could the guy not just be jealous because he’s having to sit there watching his girlfriend essentially cuckold him? ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417/3 "2009-09-12T23:44:03Z")
Not sure, Triumphant. Apparently, he has been incredibly cool with everything in the past. See, we travel in social circles where the freedom of affection is the norm. Not to mention, the last time this happened, he was not only down he was part of the crowd cheering her on, and, oh yeah, he had a camera clicking away. The variable that could have changed could have been any one of a million other things, [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) included. Its just, last time he was incredibly supporting. Perhaps he simply changed his mind. ---
**Author:** ![Triumphant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@Triumphant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Triumphant)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417/4 "2009-09-12T23:52:03Z")
> [@sigil.tech](#): > > See, we travel in social circles where the freedom of affection is the norm. Yeah, I get that. I’m on the edge of such circles, so even though I don’t participate usually, I’ve observed a lot of the behavior. As you say, it could be a million things. Maybe he’d just had a crappy day. Maybe he and Bluebird had had a fight. Maybe you should load up on IH, buy him a beer and let him spill his guts. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Caelas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/caelas/32/381_2.png) [@Caelas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Caelas)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417/5 "2009-09-12T23:52:15Z")
> [@sigil.tech](#): > > Not sure, Triumphant. Apparently, he has been incredibly cool with everything in the past. See, we travel in social circles where the freedom of affection is the norm. > > Not to mention, the last time this happened, he was not only down he was part of the crowd cheering her on, and, oh yeah, he had a camera clicking away. The variable that could have changed could have been any one of a million other things, pheromones included. > > Its just, last time he was incredibly supporting. Perhaps he simply changed his mind. Perhaps the TUTH, perhaps he decided he wants Bluebird to himself. A YEAR went by…a lot can change in a year, you and I both know that. Bottom line is, he’s in the way. Bluebird doesn’t seem very interested in him, so either explain to her what you and Wifey want, or find a nice place to dump his body. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417/6 "2009-09-13T01:02:17Z")
There’s alot of history with Bluebird. A year ago, some things happened, we lost touch, and last night she was letting me know she felt abandoned, and wanted to know if the door was still open for her. This was, of course through metaphor, and was subtle, but I got the message. She was a potential live in girlfriend last year. We spent time with her, had her over alot, and there were many sleepovers… There was a week that she practically lived with us. Then external bullshit came into play, and she was out of our life, abruptly. I think there were some broken hearts on all ends. No one was bad, did anything evil, its just the way life played out. I am not looking to cause trouble or impact her free will. That’s what I love about this woman. But damn it, I am going to make my intentions clear. I will demonstrate that the door is open. If she goes through it, great, if not, I am still happy to have her as a friend. I think the only thing that will work with her is more emotional discourse. This chick simply does not do emotions, and last night was somewhat out of character. Actually, quite a bit out of character. The only thing that will work is sincerity, honest and open discourse, and true human understanding. I have missed her, and wifey is encouraging me to open up to her. We will see how it goes. I don’t think I will have to do anything to chase boyfriend off. I just simply continue to be me, talk to her openly, candidly, and listen to her. ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417/7 "2009-09-13T01:20:50Z")
Well, I could buy him a beer and have him spill his guts, but I am not sure he is worth the effort. I am convinced that he will be gone relatively soon, with no effort on my part. Bluebird does not like being controlled by anyone, and this is why I like her so much. So, if he exerts any sort of control, that will lead to a natural end. Sigh. I am quite smitten with her, and the possibility she could be back in our life really has me happy and somewhat in a bittersweet mood. My wife is being incredibly supportive and is happy with the possibilities. We have missed her. > [@Triumphant](#): > > Yeah, I get that. I’m on the edge of such circles, so even though I don’t participate usually, I’ve observed a lot of the behavior. > > As you say, it could be a million things. Maybe he’d just had a crappy day. Maybe he and Bluebird had had a fight. Maybe you should load up on IH, buy him a beer and let him spill his guts. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Triumphant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@Triumphant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Triumphant)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417/8 "2009-09-13T20:41:09Z")
> [@sigil.tech](#): > > Well, I could buy him a beer and have him spill his guts, but I am not sure he is worth the effort. Yeah, that wasn’t an entirely serious suggestion. I think you’re right that she probably just needs to let things play out. ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-and-pissomg-off-bluebirds-boyfriend/32417/9 "2009-09-13T23:58:49Z")
LOL. Thanks. Yeah, if he was worth the effort I would most certainly consider it, but, you know. I am stepping back and just letting life go its course. The data tells me its nothing I should focus on, it will take care of itself, completely without my presence. Rock.