# P83 + Androstenone:  I know you've been waiting for this one

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 3, 2008, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-androstenone-i-know-youve-been-waiting-for-this-one/8832 "2008-02-03T02:25:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 10:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-androstenone-i-know-youve-been-waiting-for-this-one/8832/7 "2008-02-04T10:35:15Z")

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> [@TRDE59](#):
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> I got some new pheros yesterday, just in time for a party last night. The party was 80’s themed, so I decided to try them out during hammered time.
> 
> The mix, as I later found out, would be best described as: “Can’t touch this… but you wanna.”
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> The composition?
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> The Edge: 1 spray to neck, 1 spray to chest (under shirt)  
> Instant Honesty 2x: 1 spray to neck  
> Spaceland: 3 sprays to hair  
> **NEW** Instant Shine 2x (to-go): 2 sprays to neck  
> Scent of Eros: 1 line along jaw, 1 line around front of neck  
> **NEW** P83 15mcg/s, Ammo scent: 2 sprays to neck, 1 a few hours later
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> Unfortunately, I seem to be running out of all my “friendly” pheros, so I put on small bits of what I had left of my 3 -Androstenol products. I left A314 out cause I’ve found it works great in relationship/bonding “us” time, but not so well for meeting new people at parties.
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> The results?
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> Girls were very friendly. It took a few minutes for girls that didn’t know me to open up, but I don’t remember a single negative reaction. And the girls that did know me were very excited to see me. 🆒 A couple girls said they remembered me from a party a good 3 months ago (that I wore pheros to), although I don’t remember meeting them and hadn’t seen them since. Evidence of that phero memory-enhancement? Also there was a lot of touching once they became comfortable around me.
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> **Guys seemed shy. It happens a lot to me, anyway, even without pheros cause I’m a beefcake, but it was slightly more pronounced last night. It wasn’t a shyness borne of intimidation, however (or at least it didn’t appear that way). It was more like they couldn’t think of anything to talk about. Most convos with guys were short, unless it was with a good friend. No -Androstenol fueled oral diarrhea.**
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> Then again, at parties like these, most guys aren’t interested in talking to other guys, anyway. 😛
> 
> Overall, it was a very alpha-maleish, sexual kinda mix, even with all the -nols. I did leave the party with a girl 😃 so I guess the pheros did their job in that department. Also I didn’t notice any aggression that one might notice with a pure -none OD.
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> **But I would’ve liked more sociability than this mix allowed. Guys reactions weren’t really unfriendly, just kinda awkward.** I might tone down the -none next time, or get rid of it entirely while I try to figure out exactly what P83 does.

**Your reactions (those bolded by me) seem to have something in common from some previous posts on the forum regarding a certain ‘indecision’/‘hesitation’-promoting property of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)…**

[1 week of p83 - #18 by toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-week-of-p83/1928/18) ([1 week of p83 - #18 by toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/1-week-of-p83/1928/18))  
toilofday (March 11, 2007):  
“…**From the way [Jasmin] was talking p83 ([Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p83/)) has some indecisive properties, wishy washy, or a sedentary whatever type of vibe.** I absolutely hate that, so it makes sence…”

P83 - Mind Bending Sex ([P83 - Mind Bending Sex - #40 by SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mind-bending-sex/3686/40))  
SteveO (May 18, 2007):  
“…**Yeah I had to open everyone with [P83],** but once you get going it becomes evident that it creates rapport. On the other hand I noticed myself very talkative and wanting to open people, which makes me question the P83 ([Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p83/)) vibe itself. I am naturally gregarious, but today I was on a mission to talk to everyone. So if I was self effected, which most likely I was, then you can say that communication would actually open up with this [putative](https://a314.com/).”

[Somebody stop me! A girl OD on P83? - #15 by Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/somebody-stop-me-a-girl-od-on-p83/8508/15) ([Somebody stop me! A girl OD on P83? - #15 by Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/somebody-stop-me-a-girl-od-on-p83/8508/15))  
Kitten (January 2008):  
“**50 MCG ([Microgram - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)) [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)**…1. P83 ([Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p83/)) does not attract men on its own. Nor does it turn them off. The attitude it produces is attractive to men, though. **I noticed I had guys in my orbit all day, hanging around making hesitant, rather girlish eye contact. I had to initiate the conversations.** And in general men seemed dazed and thrilled and amazed, sometimes taken aback, by how happy I was…”

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