# p83 good news at first bad news second

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 1, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740 "2012-06-01T12:35:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/1 "2012-06-01T12:35:01Z")

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I noticed that with my wearing of p83 the last two days alongside ammo is the results started of good but ended up bad.

p83 works well when you are in a good mood or when you are in a sexual mood.. But since I started testosterone therapy (with natural therapy boosters) my aggression level has been higher. Thus I found myself the high testosterone aggressive p83 man.. Someone who speaks his mind about how he feels while thoughts are on “the subject” of sex and not necessarily sexual feelings directly… i ended up feelings more like the big brother than the stud with this molecule on.

I felt out of control with MY own emotional state and people could sense it 😮

I think IS AMMO by itself works much better and i’ll leave p83 out from now on. Unfortunately with higher test levels theres no way to tame down aggressive side effects. Even IS doesn’t override it.

Found myself later on having felt emotional about my sexual needs and aggression to be rather on the depressed side of things.

All in all [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) works.. you know why? It got my mood going in all directions today, aggressive, emotional, sexual, and depressed.

I won’t miss my p83.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/2 "2012-06-01T14:05:13Z")

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P83 is notable for its disinhibition effects. It probably didn’t change anything promoted by the three pheros in [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), rather it left you rather more prone to feeling and acting on them.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/3 "2012-06-02T00:25:21Z")

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> I felt out of control with MY own emotional state and people could sense it
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> [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/eek.gif](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/images/smilies/eek.gif)

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> Found myself later on having felt emotional about my sexual needs and aggression to be rather on the depressed side of things.

By chance is this a feeling you naturally have sometimes that you tend to control and inhibit others from seeing ?

Like Mobo said [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is a dishibitor, its going to make you let go of that control. If you have any type of wall P83 will find it and either knock it down or drag you out from behind it. It sort of makes you feel like you would imagine feeling if you truly didnt care what others think about you. All people care about that to some extent, its in our nature.

I would say the feelings are yours, P83 is just unleashing them so to speak. Before you give up on it you may want to try it where you dont inhale it as much yourself. Try the back of the body. This way it effects you less and them more.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![henk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/henk/32/5189_2.png) [@henk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/henk)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/4 "2012-06-02T17:26:39Z")

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If i use [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) im living in my own world.  
I was walking around and didn’t notice a friend…

Thx Mobo and Tisha it explains alot.  
P83 can make me very aggresive too.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/5 "2012-06-03T00:37:36Z")

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> [@henk](#):
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> If i use P83 im living in my own world.  
> I was walking around and didn’t notice a friend…
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> Thx Mobo and Tisha it explains alot.  
> P83 can make me very aggresive too.

I feel the exact same as you too henk… You described how I feel with p83 on EXACTLY!😮

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**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/6 "2012-06-04T19:25:07Z")

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I’ve never felt like that and I work out and take natural testosterone. How much are you using? I never go past 30 myself. Also were do you spray it. You can try a different spot like the wrists or back of the neck. I wonder if TAC would reduce the self effects.

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**Author:** ![Turbo2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@Turbo2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Turbo2)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/7 "2012-06-04T20:10:33Z")

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What kind of natural test booster are you using?

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**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/8 "2012-06-04T21:09:24Z")

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> [@giantb](#):
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> What kind of natural test booster are you using?

I get supplements from [houseofmuscle.com](http://houseofmuscle.com) none of it’s illegal or gives you man boobs lol

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**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/9 "2012-06-04T22:26:57Z")

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ha, how funny. I experience the same thing. I just zone out and become extremely horny. I sprayed some on the other night and went on the prowl with a buddy and got nothing but he was progressively getting in a worse mood. I tried to mix honesty and p83 that night actually. Not a good mix that night. We just had a long conversation at the bar and the women seemed to be the exact opposite of the night before…  
the night before I had played with TUTH. In fact We both took a few shots of TUTH and IS and we had women all over us at the bar. We were playing it cool and pretty much not even trying and girls were walking over to us and opening to us. I felt like I was in Thailand.. (-;  
TUTH and IS were perfect.  
p83 has worked well at night when my girlfriends are over. It seems to work much better for me when its not in public.  
I was able to sneak right into my ex-girlfriends comfort zone without even trying and got at it. Normally she is pushy and doesn’t even want to touch me now that we’ve broken up.

So to wrap it up, p83 worked great for more private time (like the end of the night) while TUTH and IS were a perfect team for the wine bar.  
Thanks for all your posts btw.  
It is very enlightening reading everyones experiences with p83.  
It really helped me to better understand this stuff and how it has been affecting people and myself.

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**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/10 "2012-06-05T18:25:27Z")

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[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is awesome! It’s just that it effects everyone so if you wear it by itself everyone seem sort of tipsy.

I made lots of posts about testing it at work and there’s a cute asian girl that works there when I wear p83 she is really out going and giggling and flirty with a co-worker that’s not me!! I add some ammo or something with none in it and hey what d you know she’ll flirt with me. I thought maybe it was a fluke I tested this prob 6-7 times same reaction everytime.

Pretty funny to watch.

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**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-good-news-at-first-bad-news-second/55740/11 "2012-06-05T18:27:34Z")

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ha, nice.  
I am going to start experimenting with openness and p83 starting this weekend.  
I just feel that I enjoy a314 and shine so much sometimes its hard to pull away.

I am going to try ammo and p83 this next week at summer school as well.

thanks gotchaz.
