# P83 - how many mcg´s should I use and is P83 a good standalone? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 3, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125 "2011-11-03T18:21:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/1 "2011-11-03T18:21:08Z")
Perhaps I could find the answer with a longer serach on the forums but after seraching 10 minutes without results and as I am to sluggardly to search again, I have decided to ask my question in this thread 🙂 How many mcg’s of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is a adequade amount to test this stuff for daily use (not in clubs or disco´s) for an 37 old male. Can I test it alone or should I mix it with other mones? Thank you in advance 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/2 "2011-11-03T18:23:44Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > Perhaps I could find the answer with a longer serach on the forums but after seraching 10 minutes without results and as I am to sluggardly to search again, I have decided to ask my question in this thread 🙂 > > How many mcg’s of P83 is a adequade amount to test this stuff for daily use (not in clubs or disco´s) for an 37 old male. Can I test it alone or should I mix it with other mones? > > Thank you in advance 🙂 It’s had some effects at 12.5mcg dosages all the way up to 40. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/3 "2011-11-03T18:28:23Z")
Yup - you need to test it and whilst you can use it alone, I’ve always found it best deployed in support of other pheros. If its any help, 30mcg is the dose that seems to do best for me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![cris100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@cris100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cris100)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/4 "2011-11-03T18:52:25Z")
12.5 is ok, but you can go up to 30. I don’t know how good it works alone but with TUTH it’s amazing ---
**Author:** ![dfredi5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@dfredi5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dfredi5000)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/5 "2011-11-03T23:45:04Z")
like the others said it works best when in the presence of something else. like tuth and ammo. ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/6 "2011-11-04T02:35:30Z")
I read in one of the threads that effects are less than subtle at 25mcg+ ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 12:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/7 "2011-11-04T12:05:24Z")
I’ve found that [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) does not really show blatant hits until you reach the 30-40mcg range P83 really hits good at 50-75mcgs. 75mcgs however may be overkill. I purchased a 5ml 25mcg’s/spray bottle last year and 3 sprays was good for me. i have the 12.5/spray now and 3 sprays seems to show good hits. I wish people were not so greedy. I’ll be glad when the P83 excitement dies down. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/8 "2011-11-04T16:01:30Z")
> [@paradox1](#): > > I’ve found that P83 does not really show blatant hits until you reach the 30-40mcg range > > P83 really hits good at 50-75mcgs. 75mcgs however may be overkill. > > I purchased a 5ml 25mcg’s/spray bottle last year and 3 sprays was good for me. > > i have the 12.5/spray now and 3 sprays seems to show good hits. > > I wish people were not so greedy. I’ll be glad when the P83 excitement dies down. IME 50mcg is way too much. Just wasting product, even at 25mcg you can see [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)’s effects if you pay attention to it enough. ---
**Author:** ![extremetestosterone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ea5d25/32.png) [@extremetestosterone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extremetestosterone)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/9 "2011-11-04T16:20:38Z")
My bottle is at 15mcg. I agree with mustang that 50 or more mcg is just wasting it. From what I have observed the best hits come when using one-three sprays. I base how much I am going to wear on the environment. For example, if I am going to work one spray is plenty. Come to think of it, when I first got [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) I used one spray at work (that’s it…just 15mcg of P83) and it was magic. One of the best days with mones I had ever had. Always use P’s as a stand alone first. That way you know how they act, and later on when making your own custom mixes you can use your experiences as a reference point. ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/10 "2011-11-04T19:19:01Z")
I really want to try this [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) “It makes women want to drop their pants 80% of the time. If I had to describe it in one sentence.” (P83 testimonials) Because I want to eventually make a mix that does just that Something like A314 + TUTH + IS + IH + P83 (+ I have alot of skill at making women want to _quickly_ drop their pants after meeting me even without mones) ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/11 "2011-11-04T20:59:40Z")
Thank you for your advices.🙂 Onces I have read a thread about an A1 / [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) - mix. there was adviced to mix A1 with P83 in an 2:1 or 1:2 - relation which seems to lead to good results. I do not remember if it was 2 parts A1 and one part P83 or two parts P83 and one part A1. Can anybody help me of state me the link to this thread? ---
**Author:** ![dfredi5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@dfredi5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dfredi5000)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/12 "2011-11-04T22:07:24Z")
It depends on what mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) you have but it was K-trains journel most likely. I believe it was 1 part A1 to 2 parts P83… ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/13 "2011-11-04T22:52:41Z")
> [@GetTheEdge](#): > > I really want to try this P83 > > “It makes women want to drop their pants 80% of the time. If I had to describe it in one sentence.” (P83 testimonials) > > Because I want to eventually make a mix that does just that > > Something like A314 + TUTH + IS + IH + P83 (+ I have alot of skill at making women want to _quickly_ drop their pants after meeting me even without mones) For somebody to make a claim like “p83 makes women want to drop their pants 80% of the time” is completely ridiculous if p83 was capable of that there would be know need for any other attraction products and AD would be a multi billion dollar company. That is why p83 is in such short supply because idiots like that make claims about how amazing it is and newbies buy into it and order it buy the bucket load, only to be disappointed when they don’t get said results. ---
**Author:** ![dfredi5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@dfredi5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dfredi5000)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/14 "2011-11-04T23:03:07Z")
Couldn’t have said it better myself it’s good but not that good… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/15 "2011-11-05T01:00:30Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > For somebody to make a claim like “p83 makes women want to drop their pants 80% of the time” is completely ridiculous if p83 was capable of that there would be know need for any other attraction products and AD would be a multi billion dollar company. > That is why p83 is in such short supply because idiots like that make claims about how amazing it is and newbies buy into it and order it buy the bucket load, only to be disappointed when they don’t get said results. Obviously a woman doesnt smell something and then drop her pants Particularly not to the extent that there would be no need for any other attraction products and AD would be a multi billion dollar company But if you look throughout the forums theres enough information to support [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) being a valuable component in a potent mix ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/16 "2011-11-05T08:12:37Z")
> [@GetTheEdge](#): > > Obviously a woman doesnt smell something and then drop her pants > > Particularly not to the extent that there would be no need for any other attraction products and AD would be a multi billion dollar company > > But if you look throughout the forums theres enough information to support P83 being a valuable component in a potent mix I love p83, infact it is my favorite putative, it is in 80% of all my mixes, I just find it crazy that its getting so hyped up recently. ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/17 "2011-11-05T08:55:08Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > I love p83, infact it is my favorite putative, it is in 80% of all my mixes, I just find it crazy that its getting so hyped up recently. lol I just saw “[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) addict” under your name Yeah I’m looking forward to testing it out I’m thinking A314 + TUTH + IH + IS + P83 might be aight ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 10:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/18 "2011-11-05T10:08:25Z")
> [@GetTheEdge](#): > > lol I just saw “P83 addict” under your name > > Yeah I’m looking forward to testing it out > > I’m thinking A314 + TUTH + IH + IS + P83 might be aight There’s only one way to find out 😉 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/19 "2011-11-05T14:49:43Z")
What are you guys trying to accomplish with P83? Yes it works, but there are so many factors involving the molecule. Remember also for the most part that people will only report the hits they get and they great stories with P83 it’s like reading a review of the product but not reading the negatives about that. P83 can backfire with self effects sometimes if you don’t notice it and can lead to things that you don’t want. This isn’t the frigging end all be all of the molecules guys, it’s great but if you are a newbie, and I’m not saying you shouldn’t be allowed to test this, you shouldn’t be dabbling in the putatives with all the expectations already. I’ve had times when P83 worked awesome, and I’ve had times when it was a dud. There will never be ANYTHING in ANY company that will just get women to drop their pants for you just like that. Even if you’re that good at game mones will only HELP facilitate it. Everyone is always so worried about which mones do which that what are you going to do if they stopped existing. The key with mones is that it’s supposed to help you with your interactions, it’s supposed to HELP you with CONFIDENCE. Once you have those, many of you will learn that these products are great tools and not a substitute for you. I understand the excitement, but seriously now, I’ve had better reactions with the consumer sprays in a CONSISTENT BASIS, than any of the putatives, even the ICM 2.25 had some duds for me, and even P96 didn’t work all the time. I don’t think you guys understand how well A314 and some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) or any social can work wonders for you. The greatest products are right under your nose, don’t go searching for something that is scarce when it would only disappoint you when it isn’t in stock for a protracted period of time. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/20 "2011-11-06T21:47:01Z")
My initial experience with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) was not positive - at least for the self-effects: [P83 Self-Effects - Heightened Aggression](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-effects-heightened-aggression/25045) It turned me into one grumpy SOB. I’ve since mixed it into feminine enhancer/activator mixes for my lady friends to wear. These are most A-nols and copulins with dash of P83 to stimulate action on their part. Something seems to work since I a happy and tired man after my visits. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125.md?page=2)