# P83 - how many mcg´s should I use and is P83 a good standalone? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 3, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125 "2011-11-03T18:21:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/21 "2011-12-22T16:16:56Z")
[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is a really weird one for me, I use it very rarely, I do think it is effective towards woman, I noticed space-reducing effects, extensive touching and closeness. Don’t really need a high dose, 10-20mcg. However, the self-effects are really strange, tested solo a few times ~20mcg had like a senses enhancement, listening to music felt real good and the sense of hearing seemed it had more quality, more pure. ~50mcg my body felt real sensitive, the need to be touched, I was rubbing my arms like I’m cold but I’m not. I spray it on my wrists when used in a mix, cause I don’t want to experience the self-effects, I feel like a tampon if that makes any sense. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/22 "2011-12-22T22:03:45Z")
> [@still18](#): > > I feel like a tampon if that makes any sense. Haha, feel like a tampon 😃, but it’s true [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) makes me also much more sensitive, but the truth is women love it… ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/23 "2011-12-22T23:29:00Z")
Yes… sensitive was the word I was looking for 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2011, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/24 "2011-12-23T06:07:41Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > What are you guys trying to accomplish with P83? > > Yes it works, but there are so many factors involving the molecule. Remember also for the most part that people will only report the hits they get and they great stories with P83 it’s like reading a review of the product but not reading the negatives about that. P83 can backfire with self effects sometimes if you don’t notice it and can lead to things that you don’t want. > > This isn’t the frigging end all be all of the molecules guys, it’s great but if you are a newbie, and I’m not saying you shouldn’t be allowed to test this, you shouldn’t be dabbling in the putatives with all the expectations already. I’ve had times when P83 worked awesome, and I’ve had times when it was a dud. There will never be ANYTHING in ANY company that will just get women to drop their pants for you just like that. Even if you’re that good at game mones will only HELP facilitate it. Everyone is always so worried about which mones do which that what are you going to do if they stopped existing. The key with mones is that it’s supposed to help you with your interactions, it’s supposed to HELP you with CONFIDENCE. Once you have those, many of you will learn that these products are great tools and not a substitute for you. > > I understand the excitement, but seriously now, I’ve had better reactions with the consumer sprays in a CONSISTENT BASIS, than any of the putatives, even the ICM 2.25 had some duds for me, and even P96 didn’t work all the time. I don’t think you guys understand how well A314 and some Instant Shine or any social can work wonders for you. The greatest products are right under your nose, don’t go searching for something that is scarce when it would only disappoint you when it isn’t in stock for a protracted period of time. I have to agree with Mustang here… [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is fun to have especially when one is looking for hits, its real fun because it works well as a dis-inhibitor. women and men behave in a much relaxed manner around P83 but making women drop pants 🙄 now thats what I feel hyperbole. > [@GetTheEdge](#): > > I really want to try this P83 > > “It makes women want to drop their pants 80% of the time. If I had to describe it in one sentence.” (P83 testimonials) > > Because I want to eventually make a mix that does just that > > Something like A314 + TUTH + IS + IH + P83 (+ I have alot of skill at making women want to _quickly_ drop their pants after meeting me even without mones) From what I feel after emptying nearly one and half 30 ml bottle of P83 over the last one year, it is a nice putative to have… but for absolute results, I would prefer TUTH & IH OR TUTH & Shine. Sometimes the disinhibition thingy worked in favor sometimes it came back and bit me in the ass :o I’d say dont rely on the hype much. try to go by your own experiences.. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/25 "2011-12-27T07:55:58Z")
FYI - It’s back in the shop today: **Get [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) here:** > **[Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p83/)** > > P83 is an experimental putative pheromone molecule known for its disinhibiting, space-closing effects. First appearing in blind field tests around 2006, it has since shown up in dozens of advanced blends. Though its mechanism is unclear, its behavior... ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/26 "2011-12-27T10:27:38Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > FYI - It’s back in the shop today: > > **Get P83 here:** > [Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p83/) It would seem it’s not in stock. Or did you run out already? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/27 "2011-12-27T13:27:50Z")
It’s for sale only to reporting users. ---
**Author:** ![pherosloth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@pherosloth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherosloth)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/28 "2015-05-07T00:50:55Z")
I got Steve’s p83, idk if its as affective as AD’s p83 but i plan to test the hell out of it. I’m hoping it will work. If i can provide great reports on does that mean i get the chance to test out AD’s p83 and maybe even compare them? Or how dpes that work? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/29 "2015-05-07T12:29:25Z")
Its not “great” reports that will get your RU Status awarded, its consistent, accurate reports, great or not. And its difficult with other people’s products as AD probably won’t always know the source or any other components in the mix that may affect diffusion differently. So its best to confine your reporting to AD products only. As for [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) - when a putative starts getting low, they do sometimes limit the sale to RUs only and sometimes the maximum concentration/quantity as well but for now, P83 is out of stock for all of us, so its a real drought again. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![pherosloth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@pherosloth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherosloth)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/30 "2015-05-07T14:46:58Z")
Ok. Really sucks when things disappear, that you hear so many great reviews about, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) being one of those and a-thdoc being another xD. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/31 "2015-05-07T15:04:55Z")
So far it has always come back, but sometimes the drought can last quite a few months. ☹ Take the great reviews with a pinch of salt. IMO, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) (along with A1) is one of the molecules most prone to overuse and overenthusiastic reporting, which often fails to take the rest of any mix into account - I find that P83 isn’t best used standalone but with the right mixes, in the right situations, it really lights-up as a superb secondary/steering molecule. ---
**Author:** ![pherosloth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@pherosloth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherosloth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/32 "2015-05-09T18:51:40Z")
Yes it doesand it tends to work great as a steering molecule, and based on my use so far, Steve’s 83 works great. At firat i thought that it wasnt working at 2 sprays (12.5mcg/spray), so i upped it to 3 sprays (37.5mcg and i experienceD more space reduction than at 2 sprays. It is rather subtle thought, and one must have a keen sense of observation to notice certain things That happen while wearing it. Im sti going to test it at higher doses just to see what happens, and reading reviews, most day it is a waste above 50mcg, but im still going to push that boundry to see what all this has to offer. That’s what testing is about right? Experiencing different dosages and their effects both good and bad? I have yet to experience any sound enhancement, then again i may not have been observant of it. But ill keep an eye oit to see if maybe i do recieve something like it as well as lokkong back into the last couple days to see if maybe I can notice or remember certain situations. ---
**Author:** ![pherosloth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@pherosloth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherosloth)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/33 "2015-05-10T00:47:15Z")
So it appears that while listening to music it does seem different, almost like enhanced. I can hear all different portions of instruments being played, and in clear concise sound, and to me it appears my brain can easily pay attention to each one source at the same tIme and picture each instrument being played as well as all playing in concert, almost like a music video in my head. Im wearing 4 sprays at 12.5mcg each. ---
**Author:** ![pherosloth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@pherosloth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherosloth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/34 "2015-05-13T06:29:25Z")
This is a fun molecule to play with and i really wish i could buy AD’s 30ml cause Steves’s 10ml is just not enough lol. I use it just about all the time cause it works, and it works great. Idk if it still have problems with diffusion, but it works great right away, although effects seem to run down rather quickly after the first few hours. Also ive posed the question of whether it is possible to buildup [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) like various other products out there. If so would one become more and more cuddle bear status eventually drawing in the females, or would it just make all men sleepy around them, including self? Haha damn mones are like science, for every question you find an answer to, there are 4-5 more questions lurking behimd it. ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125/35 "2016-07-23T17:29:33Z")
After many tests with p83 I get to the conclusion that one spray (about 25mcg) on clothes provides me best hits. Surprising findings: The effects on clothes seems to be better than on skin. [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) as standalone acts more effective than in a mix like +npa, +A1, +betaNol ect… [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-how-many-mcg-s-should-i-use-and-is-p83-a-good-standalone/53125.md?page=1)