# P83 = Mr. Charisma - Plus Violent Outburst from one male **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 5, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400 "2010-09-05T04:53:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/1 "2010-09-05T04:53:46Z")
I have been testing P83 along with my work mix results here: > [@MY work mix + P83](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-work-mix-p83/41309): > > My current work mix is: 2d A314, 1s [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) x2, 1s IS 4x, 1s IH 4x + 25 mcg A1 when my ex is around. Added 10mcg P83 sprayed on front of neck Application points in same order:\* 1 drop behind each ear smeared down jawline, chest, back of head, 1/2 spray each side of neck, drop smeared across back of neck. \*At work because of constant hand and dish washing, I don’t apply anything to my wrists or forearms. Temp / Weather: 104+ Dry heat outside, inside Starbucks Kiosk low 80’s humid. Applicatio… Today is day 4 and Ex is not working, so I figured I would use this day to take off from other mones and test P83 solo. **Day 1: P83 Solo Test** 3s P83 10mcg 30ml (L, R and Center Neck) Application Time: 6:00 Am, refresher 11 am, 3s same app points. \*\* Self-Effects:\*\* First Application One more day with no feelings of aggravation 2+ hours into test. Within 1 hour of application time mood feels elevated. I have OCD, and one thing I have noticed with P83 I just don’t seem to be experiencing the same level of obsessive thoughts as I have in the past. For two days since the aggravation has dissipated, its almost as if the upbeat mood keeps me focused on more positive things. With A314 I feel unaffected, and an event occurred today where I should have been completely riled up, but as it occurred I was calm, cool and collected. I don’t know if this was because of P83 or residual effects of A314 along with subliminals and affirmations. **Subjects:** Co-worker 1 Co-worker 2 Customers compilation Customer 1 **Co-Worker 1:** Female, Caucasian, early 20’s Amount of time expired since application: approx 1hr Distance: 1 -10 feet at all times. Duration: 6.5 hours co-worker 1 is same co-worker in prior post who has a history of pathological lying. Today I experienced another day where her lying was almost non-existent. There might have been 1-2 statements she made that might be minor lies, but this girl tells whoppers. If P83 can cure this girl of her lying, I’m gonna inject it into bottles of shampoo and give them to her as gifts LOL j/k **CUSTOMERS:** Amount of time expired since application: Various Distance: 3 feet Duration: 1 - 5 minutes As I stated in the title P83 made me Mr. Charisma. I was on today, had people smiling, laughing, just loving their interactions with me. One customer commented to me, “You are so nice, I know I come in here with a bad mood, but every time you just make me smile.” We cannot accept tips, but we have a bucket for MDA donations, this thing was more full than we had ever seen it before, and I was the only one on register for the entire 8 hours of my shift. **Interesting Observations:** I am finding reactions among age ranges and gender to be pretty standard in all my experiences with P8 from 10-30mcgs **Females:** 12-15 yrs Intense giggling, almost non-stop 16-21 Dreamy almost DIHL not quite. 22-28 29-40+ This age range is quite wide, but it seems to affect those in the upper age ranges the most, and most often. Reactions range from embarrassment, pupil dilation, touching of chest, neck, hair, anything physical. **Males:** the reaction seems to pretty standard across the board. Jovial, very warm and receptive. **Gay Men:** Gay men seem to love this stuff. From my experiences with my gay co-worker, to a few customers who were almost as giddy as the young school girl type. One gay male customer in particular today was flushed, couldn’t stop smiling and would buy anything and everything I offered. **REFRESH / REAPPLY** : 3s P83 10mcg 30ml (L, R and Center Neck) Yes this might be overkill, or an OD, but it was fun. **Self Effects:** 2nd application I didn’t even leave the kiosk to spray this, I darted off into a corner and hit the same 3 app points as earlier all on the neck. Within 10 minutes I was loopy and boy was I having fun. I was no longer just Mr. Charismatic, I was the funniest guy on the planet. **Co-Worker 2:** 19 year old black male. Amount of time expired since 1st application: 5 hours Amount of time expired since 2nd application: Immediate Distance: 1 -10 feet at all times. Duration: 4 hours Co-worker 1 left for her 35 min lunch, I hit the reapply and within 15 minutes the two of us were in hysterics laughing at anything and everything that was going on, almost to the point of tears. This went on for a good 20 minutes or so. **Customer 1:** 25-30 year Caucasian male Amount of time expired since 1st application: 5.5 hours Amount of time expired since 2nd application: approximately 25 mins Distance: 3 feet Duration: 2-5 mins Customer and “wife,” ordered their drink and went on their way. Nothing eventful during their time at the register. I did notice however the man would not look at me, acted as if he was bothered. Roughly 5-10 minutes later customer 1 leans in through the hand out window and says something to me. I don’t quite understand what he says and ask him to repeat it. “If you ever disrespect my wife again I will fuck you up.” Confused I ask him what I said to his wife and he just keeps going. Here’s the interesting part for me. I have almost no reaction. I just wave my hands and say, “Get out of here.” Guy continues and starts to include white supremacist comments. “White power bitch! I know where you work.” I just shake my head and say, “I said go on get out of here.” I’m not even yelling, I’m acting almost as if he’s a pesky fly that just needs to be shooed away. I do not know what caused this reaction, the only negative reaction I experienced at all with any of my recent mixes. **CONCLUSIONS:** I will do more P83 solo testing, however ex returns to work tomorrow and I want to continue my baseline phero signature with her. I am still liking this product. It boosts my energy, helps me to focus on the positive as well as helps me to eliminate obsessive negative thoughts. It has these positive results on others too, and if you’re playing on the other team, its a definite item you might want to try along with [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/). Also 5 hours may be too soon to do a refresher especially one of equal initial application size. Next solo test will again be 30mcgs but only a 10mcg refresher. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/2 "2010-09-05T05:05:33Z")
Really interesting and detailed report. Thanks, I haven’t tried [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) yet but this has me curious. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/3 "2010-09-05T05:09:26Z")
You seem to be getting what is expected out of this product, an increase in interest and disinhibitor qualities (the laughing for example). Weird about the angry customer. Nice report! ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/4 "2010-09-05T05:22:59Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Really interesting and detailed report. Thanks, I haven’t tried P83 yet but this has me curious. Thanks man I appreciate it. I’m really glad I tried the solo test and I will do more in the future, I’m just too involved in this other long term project with the Ex and I don’t want to skew the results. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/5 "2010-09-05T05:25:40Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > You seem to be getting what is expected out of this product, an increase in interest and disinhibitor qualities (the laughing for example). Weird about the angry customer. > > Nice report! Thanks for the comments. Yeah it’s quite strange about the disinhibitors in this product. From violent outbursts, to laughing, public touching and people just saying what’s on their mind regardless of the venue…LOL ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/6 "2010-09-05T05:41:07Z")
thats one weird reaction for ur customer ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 5:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/7 "2010-09-05T05:46:05Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > Thanks for the comments. Yeah it’s quite strange about the disinhibitors in this product. From violent outbursts, to laughing, public touching and people just saying what’s on their mind regardless of the venue…LOL As a disinhibitor once you get a handle on it as a standalone you should try adding a spray or two with a product who’s effects you’re already fairly familiar with. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is great at creating attraction but as we all know not every woman that feels attraction will act on it. Maybe adding P83 will increase the frequency or intensity of Ammo hits. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/8 "2010-09-05T05:54:55Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > As a disinhibitor once you get a handle on it as a standalone you should try adding a spray or two with a product who’s effects you’re already fairly familiar with. Ammo is great at creating attraction but as we all know not every woman that feels attraction will act on it. Maybe adding P83 will increase the frequency or intensity of Ammo hits. Oh yeah, I can see at least 3 different products I want to spend some time really testing it with, ammo, npa and TUTH. ---
**Author:** ![jpr3390](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jpr3390/32/2045_2.png) [@jpr3390](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jpr3390)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/9 "2010-09-05T22:54:33Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > Oh yeah, I can see at least 3 different products I want to spend some time really testing it with, ammo, npa and TUTH. I want to hear this story when you try those lol 😃 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/10 "2010-09-05T22:59:08Z")
I typically almost always pair P83 with IH and [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) I think they work synergistic with each other. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/11 "2010-09-05T23:56:15Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > I typically almost always pair P83 with IH and P75 > > I think they work synergistic with each other. Try it with some P86…😉 ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/12 "2010-09-06T02:40:48Z")
I wouldn’t worry about an OD with anything besides androstenone products. Putatives are experimental and test worthy because no one knows what’s going to be the right dosage. P75 being a great example, as it was potent in very small doses. Great tests. The outburst could be a coincidence. That guy could of been an asshole no matter what [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) you had on. Keep it up! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/13 "2010-09-06T03:27:34Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Try it with some P86…😉 I do You know whats funny I used the same ratios for [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)/86 as MX353 and it works amazing. I haven’t tried to use it yet as a standalone though, that’s going to come soon. ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/14 "2010-09-06T03:33:35Z")
So there is hope for me. I’am still attempting to figure out [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) , it’s been difficult for me to get a _‘good read’_ on it. Good report! I’ll remember this one. ---
**Author:** ![smartypants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@smartypants](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smartypants)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 7:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/15 "2010-09-07T07:18:10Z")
Very interesting results! If [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) decreases your OCD symptoms, I think it could also help me with my anxiety. Any effects on sleep or on falling asleep? Makes me want to get a P83 togo next time I order. Any comments on women 22-28? ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/16 "2010-09-07T14:43:08Z")
Thanks again. Awesome report. Can’t wait for mine to arrive. So can you elaborate more on the OCD and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)? That really has my attention. ---
**Author:** ![Cindy11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Cindy11](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cindy11)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/17 "2010-09-07T15:53:02Z")
Thanks for your report on p83. This is my favorite phoromone. I love it mostly for the self effects. It gives me a feeling of freedom and social confidence that I haven’t felt in many, many years. The way that customer treated you was awful, and most people are not like that, so it’s probably unlikely that you will experience such an outburst like that one again. I responded to your post because I noticed that I have also experienced a few very negative outbursts with p83. One was a guy who had just befriended me. Everytime we would see each other, he would put me down and he would be so loud about it. He would become unaware that people across the room could hear him. I almost ended our relationship because of it, but then he calmed down. There were other odd things that he would do that would embarrass me too. One time, what seemed like out of nowhere, he pulled his shorts up very high so I could see his legs, when I had never even expressed any interest in seeing them. Another guy at the gym became very sexually aggressive with me. Not uncommon at the gym. The problem was that he expressed it by shouting his aggression, demanding that I work out with him. People were just staring, shaking their heads. The whole scene was unreal. I made it clear I didn’t want to work out with him and left the area. He followed me to another machine and began shouting at me again, this time for getting angry at him for the way he was treating me before. My husband who doesn’t know I use pheromones believed me, but even he told me that he couldn’t believe what he was hearing. Another time there was some guy who walked by me, a complete stranger, and although I didn’t hear what he said, I knew it was something nasty. He and his friend were about 20 feet from me at that point, and I could see his friend say something to him. Then I hear the guy say “Not you, I’m talking to her”. And he looked at me all pissed off about something. These three people obviously had mental issues, and their nasty attitudes would have rose to the surface eventually in some form anyway. It’s interesting that I handled those problems very well, so much better than I normaly handle negative experiences. Like you, I wasn’t oblivious to these people, and I understood the impact of the problem, but I just let the problems roll of my back which is something I have never really been able to do before. The positives I have experienced with p83 far outweigh any negativity, I will never give this one up. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/18 "2010-09-07T17:26:50Z")
> [@smartypants](#): > > Very interesting results! If P83 decreases your OCD symptoms, I think it could also help me with my anxiety. Any effects on sleep or on falling asleep? > > Makes me want to get a P83 togo next time I order. Any comments on women 22-28? I took the day off from mones yesterday and just hung out at the house all day relaxing. Had some obsessive thoughts, occured mainly in the evening more than 24 hours after last application time. I didn’t even think about it until now reaing your question that it could have been because I wasn’t wearing the mones. It could have been just boredome. As far as sleep is concerned. I don’t sleep well to begin with. I’m house sitting for a friend and their guest bedroom bed is hard as a rock. So I’ll have to wait to really consider that effect when I return home. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/19 "2010-09-07T17:29:28Z")
> [@Cindy11](#): > > These three people obviously had mental issues, and their nasty attitudes would have rose to the surface eventually in some form anyway. It’s interesting that I handled those problems very well, so much better than I normaly handle negative experiences. Like you, I wasn’t oblivious to these people, and I understood the impact of the problem, but I just let the problems roll of my back which is something I have never really been able to do before. The positives I have experienced with p83 far outweigh any negativity, I will never give this one up. 🙂 With [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) loosenig up people’s inhibitions you will more than likely see other strange outbursts like these. I have one more to write up as well. However, as you pointed out and from my experience the ability to just allow them to roll off your back is definitely a plus. I’m still wondering where that came from, from me. I’ve been using A314, along with doing a bunch of inner work, it is more than likely a combo of all of the above ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/20 "2010-09-07T17:31:11Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > So there is hope for me. I’am still attempting to figure out [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) , it’s been difficult for me to get a _‘good read’_ on it. > > Good report! I’ll remember this one. How much are you using MVK? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400.md?page=2)