# P83 = Mr. Charisma - Plus Violent Outburst from one male **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 5, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400 "2010-09-05T04:53:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/21 "2010-09-07T17:57:24Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > How much are you using MVK? Usually it’s one or two sprays. It seems as though when I’ve tested [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I’ve experinced a heavy weight feeling on my chest. The other time I applied it to my neck. Still didn’t feel much better. I can’t figure it out nor have I detected anything so far. MVKBUGATTI ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/22 "2010-09-07T18:16:53Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > Usually it’s one or two sprays. It seems as though when I’ve tested P83. I’ve experinced a heavy weight feeling on my chest. > The other time I applied it to my neck. Still didn’t feel much better. > I can’t figure it out nor have I detected anything so far. > > MVKBUGATTI I had some “approach anxiety” with it before, but I guess I got used to it after repeated use. When you say 1-2 sprays how many mcg’s per spray do you have? ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/23 "2010-09-07T18:20:26Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > Usually it’s one or two sprays. It seems as though when I’ve tested P83. I’ve experinced a heavy weight feeling on my chest. > The other time I applied it to my neck. Still didn’t feel much better. > I can’t figure it out nor have I detected anything so far. > > MVKBUGATTI What strength? I purchased a 30ml of 10mcg sprays and I’m up to 30mcgs ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/24 "2010-09-07T19:02:40Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > What strength? I purchased a 30ml of 10mcg sprays and I’m up to 30mcgs I have 30 mcg per spray and it also 30ml. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/25 "2010-09-07T22:49:50Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > I have 30 mcg per spray and it also 30ml. mmm.. that might be why. I won’t say that’s a huge dose, but I’m picking up my 30ml in 10mcg and testing up from there. Its always easier to add, than to take away IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/26 "2010-09-07T22:52:54Z")
The only think I find with high does of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is that it seems to take control of the vibe rather than be coercive. Haven’t tested it at high dosages 50+ too often though. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/27 "2010-09-07T23:18:51Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > The only think I find with high does of P83 is that it seems to take control of the vibe rather than be coercive. Haven’t tested it at high dosages 50+ too often though. I’m going to be bumping up to 40mcg in testing tomorrow with my work mix. Will do another solo test real soon as I am pulling a lot of opening shifts and my ex who’s back in classes now, will only be there in the evenings, so I won’t be seeing her much this week. I’m trying to keep the same phero sig when she’s around ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/28 "2010-09-09T19:39:15Z")
Moving all future posts to my journal: **[40mcg solo testing - Most Notable Hit So Far!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-not-so-gentlemanly-adventures-of-thegentleman/40443/18)** ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/29 "2010-09-10T05:32:30Z")
Journal updated with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 50mcgs solo testing > [@The not so gentlemanly adventures of TheGentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-not-so-gentlemanly-adventures-of-thegentleman/40443/23): > > \*\*IMPORTANT: Solo testing = no mones at all. Dial Magnetic with A1 is dropped from bathing routine. Dial 3d, shampoo and small spray of Axe body spray is only thing applied before test. I also leave all other mones home so as not to be tempted.roll_eyes Day 3: [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) Solo Test 50mcgs\*\* 5s P83 10mcg 30ml (L, R , B,C neck, hair) Application Time: 1:45 pm. Refresher 6pm Changes: Added 1 more 10mcg spray for total of 50mcgs Refresher 1 10mcg spray only 4 hours after initial application ins… ---
**Author:** ![apexi1100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@apexi1100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/apexi1100)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/30 "2010-09-11T03:14:41Z")
Nice, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) has to be one of my favs, even as a stand alone. I use it up to 60mcgs. I ALWAYS (knock on wood) have very positive results. I have not experienced anything negative though. It seems as though 30mcgs with 60mcgs of P86 is killer, for me at least. One of my fav mixes with P83 is maybe 2-3 sprays AMMO, 30mcgs P83, 60mcgs P86 and around 150mcgs Meo-Est. I feel like a relaxed bad ass. I always have females around me when I wear that mix. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400/31 "2010-09-11T04:03:53Z")
> [@apexi1100](#): > > Nice, P83 has to be one of my favs, even as a stand alone. I use it up to 60mcgs. I ALWAYS (knock on wood) have very positive results. I have not experienced anything negative though. It seems as though 30mcgs with 60mcgs of P86 is killer, for me at least. One of my fav mixes with P83 is maybe 2-3 sprays AMMO, 30mcgs P83, 60mcgs P86 and around 150mcgs Meo-Est. I feel like a relaxed bad ass. I always have females around me when I wear that mix. I have tested it with my work mix which is: 3d A314, 1s Ammo2x, 1s IH4x, 1s IS4x and have gotten great results. I have some [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) on the way, and will be bringing in meo-est and P86 on my next order. I will be updating my journal with work mix + 60mcgs p83 results along with tomorrow’s work mix + 70mcgs p83 results. I can’t wait to write up today’s (just way busy right now) because of major IOI from the buxom brunette I had fun with yesterday. 🆒 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-mr-charisma-plus-violent-outburst-from-one-male/41400.md?page=1)