# P83: Need Help! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 5, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-need-help/65157 "2015-11-05T00:42:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Vampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Vampiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-need-help/65157/1 "2015-11-05T00:42:09Z")
I want to order some P83. There are like three different drop down boxes with a bunch of different options for scent, strength, Etc, Etc, Etc. Not sure what to select on each option. I plan on ordering some Extra Strength [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and either normal or extra strength TUTH also in the order. But I am not sure what to select for the P83. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-need-help/65157/2 "2015-11-05T01:07:30Z")
Around 10mcg per spray is a reasonable starting concentration IMO. That way you can test over a decent dose range with a reasonable number of sprays. Stick to standard 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) for scent. This settles lightest whilst maintaining a good even diffusion and is least problematic when used alongside other scents. Going for any other scents/strengths will make your testing more difficult because you will have a more limited number of sprays before the scent gets overbearing - Also, some of the scents don’t diffuse as well and may clash with your primary/cover scent. Once you have your dose range for a variety of situations/combinations, it is of course fine to use any dose and scent you like but bear in mind that some don’t diffuse as well and may clash with your primary/cover scent. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-need-help/65157/3 "2015-11-06T03:45:31Z")
I just bought a bottle of P83 at 7.5 mcg in Akuto scent so that I could blend it with TUTH, MX297, and TAC, also in Akuto. Next time I’ll get a double strength to reduce the scent-to-[pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ratios but then I’m a mature gentleman. Mr. Mobo’s advice is sound for someone just trying it out. Neroli is more of a top scent so should be lighter. ---
**Author:** ![Vampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Vampiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-need-help/65157/4 "2015-11-06T08:48:22Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > I just bought a bottle of P83 at 7.5 mcg in Akuto scent so that I could blend it with TUTH, MX297, and TAC, also in Akuto. > > Next time I’ll get a double strength to reduce the scent-to-pheromone ratios but then I’m a mature gentleman. > > Mr. Mobo’s advice is sound for someone just trying it out. Neroli is more of a top scent so should be lighter. A double strength of the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) or a double strength of something else? I’m still new to all of this. Is there a double strength of P83? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 9:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-need-help/65157/5 "2015-11-06T09:27:53Z")
You can get any strength you like for the putatives - simply chose the appropriate strength/size from the drop down.