# P83.... Oh. My. Effing. God. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 2, 2013, 11:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036 "2013-02-02T11:39:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EGuz92](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eguz92/32/1475_2.png) [@EGuz92](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/EGuz92)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/21 "2013-02-03T13:00:56Z")
Oh, just an FYI, Day 2 of testing means testing on days where I WANTED to apply [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). If you count every day I tried it, even just to see what my sweet spot it, how much it takes to OD, etc., it’s Day 4, today is Day 5. ---
**Author:** ![Lordrac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5daacb/32.png) [@Lordrac](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lordrac)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 1:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/22 "2013-02-03T13:17:00Z")
Sounds like a lethal weapon, keep fighting the good fight! ---
**Author:** ![EGuz92](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eguz92/32/1475_2.png) [@EGuz92](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/EGuz92)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/23 "2013-02-03T13:22:18Z")
> [@Lordrac](#): > > Sounds like a lethal weapon, keep fighting the good fight! Trying man haha. But some people are saying my reports are erroneous. So I’m trying to take what they say into heart for my future research. I’m just reporting what I’ve experienced so far. I’m just mind-blown, perhaps a bit too excited, I’ll admit. But I’m just saying, so far, the results are damn good. ---
**Author:** ![Lordrac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5daacb/32.png) [@Lordrac](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lordrac)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/24 "2013-02-03T13:38:49Z")
> [@EGuz92](#): > > Trying man haha. But some people are saying my reports are erroneous. So I’m trying to take what they say into heart for my future research. I’m just reporting what I’ve experienced so far. I’m just mind-blown, perhaps a bit too excited, I’ll admit. But I’m just saying, so far, the results are damn good. I had already guessed that 😃, I ordered [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Shine, and Ammo just now. I have only ever used IS regularly and i once had a to-go of IG but I never had the time to bother researching it due to life and the fact that the IG ran out fairly quickly. Now that I have left high school and am in college, I have more time to relax and try mixes out, and although my social life is non-existant outside of college i’m going to try to change that. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/25 "2013-02-03T13:40:19Z")
> [@EGuz92](#): > > Trying man haha. But some people are saying my reports are erroneous. So I’m trying to take what they say into heart for my future research. I’m just reporting what I’ve experienced so far. I’m just mind-blown, perhaps a bit too excited, I’ll admit. But I’m just saying, so far, the results are damn good. Misleading and erroneous: I “THINK” they want to know … How do you know it was the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), and not any of the other mones that you applied? IF a NEWBEE read your report, they’d quickly go for P83, thinking it was responsible, because your report is AWESOME! That is what I THINK they are saying. Yes, I’ve been wrong before. 🙄 And you said you could do WITHOUT the IS because you’ve seen no hits from it. IS works miracles in a different kind of way. I feel nothing from it, either, but I KNOW it rocks. Keep at it! It’s ALL ABOUT TESTING and taking notes. Good luck!! ---
**Author:** ![EGuz92](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eguz92/32/1475_2.png) [@EGuz92](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/EGuz92)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/26 "2013-02-03T16:56:34Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Misleading and erroneous: I “THINK” they want to know … How do you know it was the P83, and not any of the other mones that you applied? IF a NEWBEE read your report, they’d quickly go for P83, thinking it was responsible, because your report is AWESOME! > > That is what I THINK they are saying. Yes, I’ve been wrong before. 🙄 > > And you said you could do WITHOUT the IS because you’ve seen no hits from it. IS works miracles in a different kind of way. I feel nothing from it, either, but I KNOW it rocks. > > Keep at it! It’s ALL ABOUT TESTING and taking notes. > > Good luck!! Ah I understand. Well today I tried [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) by itself. Same thing. Lots of friendly hits from co-workers, lots of cute girls staring into my soul haha. One girl audibly sniffed me as I set their food down and had the biggest smirk on her face. Kind of weird in all honesty, but I didn’t mind. ---
**Author:** ![Rustedjunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rustedjunk/32/1170_2.png) [@Rustedjunk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rustedjunk)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 11:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/27 "2013-02-18T11:12:50Z")
> [@EGuz92](#): > > Ah I understand. Well today I tried P83 by itself. Same thing. Lots of friendly hits from co-workers, lots of cute girls staring into my soul haha. One girl audibly sniffed me as I set their food down and had the biggest smirk on her face. Kind of weird in all honesty, but I didn’t mind. Try [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) with P79. I had a friend of mine who is bi wear me out from 11pm to 6am. We are talking about all night long, sweaty, did not care about a thing, and all kinds of positions sex. An no she didnt get pregnant. ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/28 "2013-02-18T11:17:29Z")
> [@Rustedjunk](#): > > Try P83 with P79. I had a friend of mine who is bi wear me out from 11pm to 6am. We are talking about all night long, sweaty, did not care about a thing, and all kinds of positions sex. An no she didnt get pregnant. And what were the dosages? I dont seem to get attraction hits from that mix. Tried P79 from 6.25 mu to 25 mu and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) from 18.75 mu to 75 mu. ---
**Author:** ![Rustedjunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rustedjunk/32/1170_2.png) [@Rustedjunk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rustedjunk)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/29 "2013-02-18T12:28:26Z")
> [@Mysterion](#): > > And what were the dosages? I dont seem to get attraction hits from that mix. Tried P79 from 6.25 mu to 25 mu and P83 from 18.75 mu to 75 mu. 12.5 mcg on both and two sprays of each. It has worked very well for me. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/30 "2013-02-18T18:31:53Z")
> [@Rustedjunk](#): > > Try P83 with P79. I had a friend of mine who is bi wear me out from 11pm to 6am. We are talking about all night long, sweaty, did not care about a thing, and all kinds of positions sex. An no she didnt get pregnant. Didn’t you have (2.5 or 5 mcgs of -none) TUTH in that mix, RJ? ---
**Author:** ![Rustedjunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rustedjunk/32/1170_2.png) [@Rustedjunk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rustedjunk)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/31 "2013-02-19T09:45:15Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Didn’t you have (2.5 or 5 mcgs of -none) TUTH in that mix, RJ? Thank you. I nearly forgot about that one. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/32 "2013-02-19T20:49:00Z")
> [@Rustedjunk](#): > > Thank you. I nearly forgot about that one. That can make a world of difference. You should edit your post to add that info in so nobody runs out and by P79 and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), and wonder why they didn’t get those good results. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/33 "2013-02-21T07:30:46Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Misleading and erroneous: I “THINK” they want to know … How do you know it was the P83, and not any of the other mones that you applied? IF a NEWBEE read your report, they’d quickly go for P83, thinking it was responsible, because your report is AWESOME! > > That is what I THINK they are saying. Yes, I’ve been wrong before. 🙄 > > And you said you could do WITHOUT the IS because you’ve seen no hits from it. IS works miracles in a different kind of way. I feel nothing from it, either, but I KNOW it rocks. > > Keep at it! It’s ALL ABOUT TESTING and taking notes. > > Good luck!! Yes. IShine alone = OK. + [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), not bad at all, especially for daytime. 75 + P74, really good any time. IShine + 74 + 75 = way different animal. Instantly 30% better if not more. The general period to Really know how something works seems to be about one 30 mL bottle, if you put it through all the positions. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/34 "2013-02-21T07:41:08Z")
> [@Rustedjunk](#): > > Try P83 with P79. I had a friend of mine who is bi wear me out from 11pm to 6am. We are talking about all night long, sweaty, did not care about a thing, and all kinds of positions sex. An no she didnt get pregnant. Successful P83 combos nearly always seem to have something containing androstenone or P75. Try that P83 just by itself and see what you get. Try 62.5 mcg alone or with a sexual steering [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Might backfire on you, or might be way better. Most people have a sweet spot somewhere under that 60 mcg. If you miss the spot, you will hate yourself when you try to build a mix and all 'dem b\*tches get cranky, 'cuz da mix got too much P83. 83 is not a Wunderkind, It’s a disinhibitor for men’s sexual pheros that produce arousal anyway, like TUTH + P83. The androstenone in TUTH is the sex arousal all by itself. 83 is the disinhibitor. P79 is the intensifier, unless you use too much, then it’s a nightmare. The OP said “buy P83 now.” No, I’d say buy 83 and TUTH now. He’d have never got those hits without the TUTH. Bottom line: Test P83 first by itself in 10 mcg increments. Then pick ONE men’s product based with a male sexual signal, like -eNone or P75. Then, repeat the testing with P83 increments using a lowest-level sweet spot for the male product. If AMMO is your favorite and 1 spray is the sweet spot, start with that. Add P83 in increments to find it’s spot with AMMO. It will likely be somewhere between 20 and 40 mcg. This varies much, because it depends upon application points and other factors. Serious 83-Philes will probably want the 30 mL to test all the permutations. You must know how the pair works and how each individual item works before layering more things (like P79) upon it. In the long run, you’ll be sorry if you take the short cut. I’m quite sure AD would love to build a MX or consumer product by blending P83 with AMMO, TUTH or something. If it actually works. But they’ll never know if your report is a one off or a pattern without more data. Now, I’d say you could home brew 2.5 mcg of P75 and 15 mcg P83 in a MX line and call it “Talk Dirty to Me.” Women will talk dirty, touch, flirt and eye f\*ck. Translating that into a 100% winner sex mix every time is a tougher challenge. However, I hope they someday do release that. Some guys would just be thrilled with the hits they get of it. Crazy lewd dirty talk and hardly any ghosting at all. Mars needs women. AD needs reporting data. Peace. Out. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 9:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/35 "2013-02-21T09:04:46Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > I’m quite sure AD would love to build a MX or consumer product by blending P83 with AMMO, TUTH or something. If it actually works. But they’ll never know if your report is a one off or a pattern without more data. Now, I’d say you could home brew 2.5 mcg of P75 and 15 mcg P83 in a MX line and call it “Talk Dirty to Me.” Women will talk dirty, touch, flirt and eye f\*ck. Translating that into a 100% winner sex mix every time is a tougher challenge. However, I hope they someday do release that. Some guys would just be thrilled with the hits they get of it. Crazy lewd dirty talk and hardly any ghosting at all. Mars needs women. AD needs reporting data. Peace. Out. I don’t think so, some AMMO variations have been done in the past by AD, and Androstenone based MX’s released. I think their aim is to clear away from Androstenone. I’m not sure if releasing a P75 MX is a good idea because its dosage is very age/person sensitive. I think AD’s goal is to release MX’s that are safe and social, such as [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/). It would be logical if AD would release an improved MX297, but I think there’s too little data on molecules that haven’t been tested that much or not at all. Everybody keeps reporting on the same molecules and having the same kind of results. If a group of people would take matters in their owns hands and test on some molecules we don’t know much about at least we will be on the right path, what’s the point on reporting on P75, P74, P83 etc.. I’m not saying that we shouldn’t but we’re not getting anywhere. Just my honest opinion. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/36 "2013-02-21T10:17:31Z")
> [@still18](#): > > I don’t think so, some AMMO variations have been done in the past by AD, and Androstenone based MX’s released. I think their aim is to clear away from Androstenone. I’m not sure if releasing a P75 MX is a good idea because its dosage is very age/person sensitive. > > I think AD’s goal is to release MX’s that are safe and social, such as MX297. It would be logical if AD would release an improved MX297, but I think there’s too little data on molecules that haven’t been tested that much or not at all. Everybody keeps reporting on the same molecules and having the same kind of results. > > If a group of people would take matters in their owns hands and test on some molecules we don’t know much about at least we will be on the right path, what’s the point on reporting on P75, P74, P83 etc.. I’m not saying that we shouldn’t but we’re not getting anywhere. Just my honest opinion. I honestly see potential with P75 + TAA, TAC, P74, P83, [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) and P91. All are Golden 13 molecules. Worlds of possibilities. In other words, they could make that sh\*t all day long and, hopefully, make money off it. P75 + 74 is one of the best decisions I ever made, ever. Try and pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Not a consumer product. Should be. Mad hits. No risk. The damn girls come to you. Like a bird feeder. Respect, power, masculinity–with me and James Bond at the casino taking bets on who gets laid next, while people stand in line to buy my drinks. Lurk at the strip club for a few hours wearing that. I’ll bet a couple girls will do you for free. I will just bet. [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blending-p75/52621](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blending-p75/52621) ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/37 "2013-02-21T10:55:09Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > I honestly see potential with P75 + TAA, TAC, P74, P83, P130 and P91. All are Golden 13 molecules. Worlds of possibilities. In other words, they could make that sh\*t all day long and, hopefully, make money off it. P75 + 74 is one of the best decisions I ever made, ever. Try and pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Not a consumer product. Should be. Mad hits. No risk. The damn girls come to you. Like a bird feeder. Respect, power, masculinity–with me and James Bond at the casino taking bets on who gets laid next, while people stand in line to buy my drinks. Lurk at the strip club for a few hours wearing that. I’ll bet a couple girls will do you for free. I will just bet. [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blending-p75/52621](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blending-p75/52621) How would you turn these molecules into a MX without having to use TUTH later on? It’s not that easy, [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and P74 is fine, it’s just lacking arousal. I don’t know how people can wear (high) doses of P74 without some TUTH for sexual attraction. I can not wear P74 and get sexual with a girl in a real night club, doesn’t matter if you have P75 in the mix or not. It’s too brotherly. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 11:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/38 "2013-02-21T11:51:32Z")
> [@still18](#): > > How would you turn these molecules into a MX without having to use TUTH later on? It’s not that easy, P75 and P74 is fine, it’s just lacking arousal. I don’t know how people can wear (high) doses of P74 without some TUTH for sexual attraction. I can not wear P74 and get sexual with a girl in a real night club, doesn’t matter if you have P75 in the mix or not. It’s too brotherly. It operates on the same concept of A314, to build attraction and status. Nothing about P74 is purely sexual. It does built plenty of comfort and rapport. If you already have a girl in your house, car, bedroom, etc. you don’t need romantic mixes. It’s when you’re at third base and set to steal home that a little -eNone works the magic. I’m at the stage of life where PUA and ONS is still in play, but secondary. When I’m 60, I’m sorta doubting the twenty-somethings are totally gonna dig my game well enough to want to f\*ck grandpa, whether I’m wearing $1,000 worth of mones or not. If I had Hugh Hefner money, maybe. That said, I have never, not ever once, had a woman even think of having sex without first being into me and being comfortable. I suck as a PUA, and my mixes aren’t that good at ONS. However, if you want a serious GF, I think IH + P74 + P75 can be pretty damn magical and economical. I’m thinking in the context of things like obvious supply chain issues (A314; TAH and TAL in the ladies’ consumer line). P91 maybe isn’t as good as [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/), but at least you can get the former, which makes a pretty compelling argument in itself. To the extent I’m able to offer advice, it would be: By the time you’re 35, get very, very rich…or, find a super hot GF who is ultra-horny. Women 10 years my junior still hit on me, but nothing lasts forever, even life itself. ---
**Author:** ![magus808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@magus808](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magus808)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/39 "2013-02-23T03:59:48Z")
Just came back from an office get together. Wore [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) 60 mcg. A314 1 drop behind each ear, I spray IO 1 spray IH and P75 1 spray 2.5 mcg. Showed up at the bar, and we had the back section reserved for us. I sat down next to this new girl who started with us about a month ago. I hardly see her as she is in a different area, but we all fall under one department. We started talking, and I found out she was married with 2 boys. I told her I was married with 3 girls. This is where the conversation got weird. She said you have 3 girls? You must have a lot of sex. Almost spitting out my drink I asked her how did she come to that conclusion? She said girls are easy to have as the girl sperm is stronger than the boy sperm. She said she read a study that to have a boy you have to have sex within a 12 hour window when the woman is ovulating. I then asked her how do you know if a woman is ovulating? She said most times a woman will have mucus down in her vagina. She says she always knows when she’s ovulating when she pees, and when she wipes she notices some mucus thing like boogers on the toilet paper. 😕 I still have no clue how she came to the conclusion that “You must have a lot of sex” is the reason I have 3 girls. After that conversation, I politely excused myself to the restroom. Man talk about opening up. Was it the mones? or was she just off her meds. She’s married, so I doubt she was trying to get with me. Definitely the first time I had a conversation with someone about boogers in her vagina. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036/40 "2013-02-25T06:02:46Z")
> [@magus808](#): > > We started talking, and I found out she was married with 2 boys. I told her I was married with 3 girls. This is where the conversation got weird. She said you have 3 girls? You must have a lot of sex. Almost spitting out my drink I asked her how did she come to that conclusion? She said girls are easy to have as the girl sperm is stronger than the boy sperm. She said she read a study that to have a boy you have to have sex within a 12 hour window when the woman is ovulating. I then asked her how do you know if a woman is ovulating? She said most times a woman will have mucus down in her vagina. She says she always knows when she’s ovulating when she pees, and when she wipes she notices some mucus thing like boogers on the toilet paper. 😕 This is the P83. I don’t usually use that much, but P83 with [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) Will do that. Women start talking about their female anatomy. This is the signal that you’ve found the P83 sweet spot. It’s the strangest sh\*t. It acts a little like IH, but p83 is very specific as to very graphic, slightly erotic talk. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-oh-my-effing-god/58036.md?page=3)