# P83 on a third order: 12.5mcg to-go or 2.5mcg 30ml? Does Neroli weaken it?

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**Created:** [May 13, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933 "2009-05-13T21:27:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933/1 "2009-05-13T21:27:48Z")

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This will be my 3rd order it will consist of  
[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and mixing supply’s (cant order mixing supplys on there own and forgot to add it to my last order DOH!)

what i have already  
togos (allmost empty on all them)  
tuth, ammo, gentemen, oppennes, jerk, honesty, shine  
big bottles(just got today)  
tuth, ammo, shine, oppenness, a314.

last purchase gave me enough points to get p83 for almost free… and the mixing supplys i forgot about(DOH!)

so my questions.  
I’m either going to get  
12.5mcg 5ml togo (do you get a full 30ml and a empty 5ml togo bottle, or just a full 5ml togo ?)  
or 2.5mcg 30ml  
what would you all recommend?

I’m going to get neroli sent, donno if 6% or 20%, will 20% make p83 weaker?

any recomendations would be helpful 🙂  
thanks  
-nate.

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933/2 "2009-05-14T00:58:53Z")

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> [@bedojo](#):
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> This will be my 3rd order it will consist of  
> P83 and mixing supply’s (cant order mixing supplys on there own and forgot to add it to my last order DOH!)
> 
> what i have already  
> togos (allmost empty on all them)  
> tuth, ammo, gentemen, oppennes, jerk, honesty, shine  
> big bottles(just got today)  
> tuth, ammo, shine, oppenness, a314.
> 
> last purchase gave me enough points to get p83 for almost free… and the mixing supplys i forgot about(DOH!)
> 
> so my questions.  
> I’m either going to get  
> 12.5mcg 5ml togo (do you get a full 30ml and a empty 5ml togo bottle, or just a full 5ml togo ?)  
> or 2.5mcg 30ml  
> what would you all recommend?
> 
> I’m going to get neroli sent, donno if 6% or 20%, will 20% make p83 weaker?
> 
> any recomendations would be helpful 🙂  
> thanks  
> -nate.

5ml TO GO bottle only, unless something has changed. As for what to recommend … it depends on your wallet. In the future, and when your funds permit … [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/) and P83 was a nice combo.

Still … the 30ml bottle will give you lots more experimenting, where you can play with and keep the dosages … 2.5, 5, 5.5, 6, etc. etc. mcgs until you find out what works FOR YOU.

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933/3 "2009-05-14T01:23:16Z")

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thanks for the reply,  
im stuck between testing p83, or getting cttm2 lol  
i figure ill get a 30ml either 2.5 or 5 mcg/s  
say you use 2 sprays of 5 that = 10?  
also if you transfer into a “clean” empty togo bottle will u still get same dosage as the 30ml it comes in?

so basically is the mcg/s rateing dependent on the fluid or the sprayer? i would want to say fluid as that would make more since but, i could see how it could be controled by the sprayer.

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**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933/4 "2009-05-14T01:51:22Z")

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> [@bedojo](#):
>
> thanks for the reply,  
> im stuck between testing p83, or getting cttm2 lol  
> i figure ill get a 30ml either 2.5 or 5 mcg/s  
> say you use 2 sprays of 5 that = 10?  
> also if you transfer into a “clean” empty togo bottle will u still get same dosage as the 30ml it comes in?
> 
> so basically is the mcg/s rateing dependent on the fluid or the sprayer? i would want to say fluid as that would make more since but, i could see how it could be controled by the sprayer.

Micrograms/spray is based on the liquid dilution. And remember that 5ml to-go is approximatly 80% of the 30ml spray so for example a 12.5mcg mix in a 5ml bottle will dispense 12.5 X 80%=10mcg/spray.

My preference is usually the weaker scent. I tend to get an itchy trigger finger and pump that spray head a few extra times.

OoohYahhh

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933/5 "2009-05-14T04:38:48Z")

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thanks for yall help!  
I’m going to go with the 5 mcg/s 30ml

thanks  
-Nate

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933/6 "2009-05-29T01:03:00Z")

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You test this yet Bedojo?

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933/7 "2009-05-29T01:18:05Z")

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not yet, im going to test it next week, been trying out cttm2 and love it.

haven’t read tests about it just heard it is a good one lol

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933/8 "2009-05-29T02:19:51Z")

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Thanks for this post, I did not know you could order scent by %  
That will definately help me a lot on any future orders.

I have a sensitive nose.  
😛

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-on-a-third-order-12-5mcg-to-go-or-2-5mcg-30ml-does-neroli-weaken-it/28933/9 "2009-05-29T02:27:06Z")

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> [@evolver](#):
>
> Thanks for this post, I did not know you could order scent by %  
> That will definately help me a lot on any future orders.
> 
> I have a sensitive nose.  
> 😛

only certin ones, i dont think u can order from the instant line in %  
i like to cover mine, so less scent the better for me