# p83 out of stock so I ordered Mx302 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 24, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341 "2009-11-24T00:39:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/1 "2009-11-24T00:39:48Z")
avedentally androtics ran out of p83 ☹ so I had to make a quick decision to a substitute so I ordered mx302. I was doing research and found that it contains -none. Would mx302 work on the younger crowd (17-21)? Who has had success with this mix? ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/2 "2009-11-24T00:45:19Z")
so what does p83 actually do for ya? ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/3 "2009-11-24T00:56:48Z")
You should try some seaches to see becuase people get different results…It seems to make people act on their feelings in which they would have back esp. if they are sexually aroused. here’s what happened to K-Train > [@K-Train](#): > > Here’s what I noticed from this mix: BEFORE I added P83 > > 1.) Girls were very at ease, and were more than happy to let me lead the way. > > 2.) Guys were also deferntial, looking to me as a leader figure and being chatty. > > AFTER P83 was added: > > 1.) Those same girls I was with earlier became VERY unihibited, to the point where they started slapping each other on the ass.😮 > > 2.) After talking with one girl she started walking off, and then came BACK and locked me into a tight hug.😮 Again, she was almost to the door when she did this, and she NEVER did this before, a complete 360 just to give me hug. > > 3.) Guys were still buddy buddy with me, trying to impress me and prove themselves by displaying their strength (in the gym). > > 4.) Human velcro effect from EVERYBODY, they all wanted to be around me. ---
**Author:** ![jayarea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/48db29/32.png) [@jayarea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayarea)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/4 "2009-11-24T01:18:15Z")
> [@allstarmvp256](#): > > avedentally androtics ran out of p83 ☹ so I had to make a quick decision to a substitute so I ordered mx302. I was doing research and found that it contains -none. Would mx302 work on the younger crowd (17-21)? Who has had success with this mix? go light on it. one spray should be fine. be sure to get some socials in there too. one spray even works well at the 22-25 y/o range. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/5 "2009-11-24T01:23:02Z")
> [@jayarea](#): > > go light on it. one spray should be fine. be sure to get some socials in there too. one spray even works well at the 22-25 y/o range. I’m old but when I wear MX302 I get more attention than would be appropriate from 18-25 (and younger) women. I generally wear 2 sprays. The stuff is pretty well buffered. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/6 "2009-11-24T01:29:31Z")
Haha Snoopy those young chicks love you from all of those mixes you put on. But thanks Im hoping to get away with using this on some girls I know during one-one times. Maybe it will be a good substitute for the lack of p83. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/7 "2009-11-24T01:34:36Z")
> [@allstarmvp256](#): > > Haha Snoopy those young chicks love you from all of those mixes you put on. But thanks Im hoping to get away with using this on some girls I know during one-one times. Maybe it will be a good substitute for the lack of p83. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/8 "2009-11-24T01:42:46Z")
so that mix, was it made by the company as a tester or hows that work im still trying to figure out why some stuff has name like instant openess and some are called mx…whatever ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/9 "2009-11-24T01:49:07Z")
> [@tourch10](#): > > so that mix, was it made by the company as a tester or hows that work im still trying to figure out why some stuff has name like instant openess and some are called mx…whatever As far as I know these “mixes” are not being put out as the consumer line because they need more testing and feedback from the users. in other words: mx’s are still in trail and eror mode unlike the instant-lines. Testing is also needed to determine the effects of the mix. Which is what Ill be doing ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/10 "2009-11-24T01:50:07Z")
> [@tourch10](#): > > so that mix, was it made by the company as a tester or hows that work im still trying to figure out why some stuff has name like instant openess and some are called mx…whatever Short answer. MX302 is a test product. The stuff you find in the main store is what Androtics calls its ‘Consumer (or Instant) line’. They have been tested time and again so that Androtics knows what the intended effect is. The items in the ‘Advanced’ section of the store are meant for people who are interested in the testing side of things. The ‘P’ series and the MX’s in particular are meant to be blind tested to determine what effect (if any) they have. The Putatives (P series) are individual molecules and the ‘MX’ series are composites (mixes) of various molecules that we get to test and see what they do. It is best to blind test them to deterimine how they work for you. Then you can report on them on the forum. Good and consistant reporting can help you to earn ‘reporting user status’ which will give you a discount on anything in the ‘Advanced’ section of the store. ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/11 "2009-11-24T02:02:38Z")
ah ok that clears up alot of stuff ty ill have to get more familar with the known stuff then ill be more than happy to start testing them out for the company i want to see this company get were it wants to be everyone wins with this stuff. and i dare anyone argue with that lol ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/12 "2009-11-24T02:06:30Z")
That is exactly what most of us do. We get a handle on the consumer line and then ‘graduate’ to the advanced products. Actually, just the consumer line has so much potential that I still use those products all the time. (My favorite combo being [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Shine or Instant Openness and TUTH). I also just discovered the joys of Ammo. Great stuff! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/13 "2009-11-24T02:09:55Z")
yeah i got tuth and im waiting for my IO havent had any luck with tuth yet i think i od the first 2 times i tried it 😕 lol guess it has to happen though. And i have a314. Now that stuff is great ive been wearing that to work and the self effects and the respect im getting from it now is just unreal. if you havent tried that yet i would def recommend that to anyone. im sure you have though. and yeah ive been waiting for ammo but i cant seem to get ahold of the stuff it being out of stock since i found this site ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/14 "2009-11-24T02:13:01Z")
[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is MONEY! and so is ammo (If you were one of the few that got their hands on it) both have lasting effects on the way people see you. ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/15 "2009-11-24T02:18:30Z")
IG ive read what it does but every time i look at it to buy it the Gentleman name throws me off. I keep thinking, well im a nice guy already i dont need to get any nicer or have people preceive me to be any nicer or is that not what it does to ya. Im guessin it has a pretty nice self affect goin for it then? ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/16 "2009-11-24T02:24:41Z")
Yeh thats what I thought at first but that perception to a degree is incorrect. To me, a gentleman is someone who shows masculine traits that generally won’t screw anybody over but still given respect. Think IG as the little brother of A314 minus the over-intimidation factor that happens with some people. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/17 "2009-11-24T02:25:17Z")
> [@tourch10](#): > > IG ive read what it does but every time i look at it to buy it the Gentleman name throws me off. I keep thinking, well im a nice guy already i dont need to get any nicer or have people preceive me to be any nicer or is that not what it does to ya. Im guessin it has a pretty nice self affect goin for it then? You might find the links below helpful. Just a couple of posts I’ve written about wearing IG (the 2nd one relates to the custom [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scented IG I bought and love!) > [@Instant Gentleman + Instant Shine (Reminds me of why I liked this combo so much!)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-gentleman-instant-shine-reminds-me-of-why-i-liked-this-combo-so-much/33101): > > Product name,scent and strength [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (Neroli scented) Instant Shine (Neroli Scented) Application dosage and locations 2 Sprays Instant Gentleman (1 to each side of the neck) 2 Sprays Instant Gentleman (1 to the top of each hand) 4 sprays Instant Shine (2 to each side of the head above the ears into the hair) Enviroment tested in. Work (various clients and around the office complex) Self effects. Felt that wonderful Instant Gentleman induced confidence I’ve come to know and… > [@Akuto scented Instant Gentleman with Shine 4x: first hit report at a local store](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/akuto-scented-instant-gentleman/27762): > > Finally decided to take the plunge and put my first official hit report. This happened Friday. Application 2 sprays of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (Akuto Scented) one to each side of the neck 3 sprays Instant Shine 4x- one spray to back of head and one spray inside each wrist Situation Went to a small store where I know the people there rather well. I’d just gotten the bottle of Instant Gentleman with the Akuto scent that morning and was impatient to try it out. Result Self Same Instant Gentleman … ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/18 "2009-11-24T02:35:08Z")
well sounds like the akuto scented IG is your golden egg from that post lol sounds good to me think ill give it a try soon ---
**Author:** ![tourch10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tourch10/32/2390_2.png) [@tourch10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tourch10)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/19 "2009-11-24T02:36:09Z")
alright fellas nice talkin to ya hope to get into some more conversations with ya. ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341/20 "2009-11-24T02:45:10Z")
> [@tourch10](#): > > alright fellas nice talkin to ya hope to get into some more conversations with ya. Ight bro give us some feedback if you decide to get IG. I would love to hear about that. As of thanksgiving break, Im thinking of trying this mix to one of my highschool friends that Im seeing this week. She has been showing some IOI’s over the phone and haven’t seen her since my graduation. suggestions?. 🙄 1 spray of mx302 under the shirt (I dont know how effective it will be there) 3 sprays of IG to the neck 2 sprays of IH to the back of the neck We’ll see how that goes 🙂 Also will spraying under the shirt make the -none effects less effective? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-out-of-stock-so-i-ordered-mx302/34341.md?page=2)