# p83 & p75 in neroli or ff21???

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 8, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-p75-in-neroli-or-ff21/56342 "2012-08-08T04:34:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-p75-in-neroli-or-ff21/56342/1 "2012-08-08T04:34:20Z")

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Not sure what the difference in sents are. Here is what I’ll be using them for

p83 with mx297 and IH

p75 with ammo, IG, IH

would it be best to get the neroli or the ff21? NOt sure what the major differences are here. Any insight would be awesome!

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-p75-in-neroli-or-ff21/56342/2 "2012-08-08T05:24:34Z")

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Get it in [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) (orange blossom) 6%, which is an excellent diffuser that is easy to cover or complements most cover scents well. It also settles to a very light/background level after 30mins or so, which means you can cope with a wide range of doses/combinations.

FF21 is the full-on cologne scent of standard Ammo (a bit like Creed’s Green Irish Tweed) and even at the MX/putative strength of 6% it is still pretty potent. So you won’t have anything like the same flexibility with dose/number of sprays before it gets overpowering and its going to be a challenge to find a suitable/complemantary cover scent.

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**Author:** ![s\_t\_f](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@s\_t\_f](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/s_t_f)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-p75-in-neroli-or-ff21/56342/3 "2012-08-08T12:07:48Z")

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Thank you mobo. I like you insight. You are very helpfull!

By cover scent you mean my personal cologne? I was under the impression that using cologne was bad, I guess I still have a ton of more research to do. The cologne I use is “CK Free”. I smell pretty strong without adding even more cologne on top of the mones.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-p75-in-neroli-or-ff21/56342/4 "2012-08-09T05:33:02Z")

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No, you can easily use cover scents/colognes and in that case, [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) and then Akuto at 6% are probably the easiest to use. Neroli is also the scent used in the Instant Line and TUTH.

Its aerosol deodorants you need to avoid as well as spraying any cover or phero over oil-base application as this can wreck diffusion. Keep oils/sprays apart.