# P83 self test - instant stoned? :) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 17, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948 "2009-06-17T06:36:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948/1 "2009-06-17T06:36:37Z")
So I got a big bottle of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) with my last order and had an hour to kill before heading out last night. Thought I’d spray some on and see what self-effects I felt. I don’t normally react personally, so this was an eye-opener to say the least!! Excuse the randomness of the comments, but I’ve copied this straight from what I jotted down… 5.40pm - 1 spray Game scented 7.5mcg P83 to the throat. Deep warmth spreading through groin and lower stomach 5.50pm - 1 spray Game scented 7.5mcg P83 to the throat (15mcg total now) Very minor butterfly like anxiousness - need to do something - decide to write this down 5.56pm Like the feel of my hands - warmth through groin again. Sensuality? Sense of wanting to feel? 5.58pm sensory awareness seems to have increased - not drastic. Could be just that I’m home alone, quiet 6.00pm Is it calm alertness? Mind feels calm, still. Still slight anxiety in stomach. Not calm thru body, just mind. Feel like I could spring into action if needed 6.05pm Walking around the lounge, again very aware and in the moment - if I WANT to be. Reminds me of dope and how the body functions but the mind slows down and really NOTICES things. Similar time distortion effect. I don’t feel impulsive - rather that there is a single minded focus on what I pay attention to. Intensifier of thought and action. Not impulsive, but strengthens desire… not “not caring” but caring way more intensely 6.15pm can still function quite normally - body is fine. When I need to do something I can do it. Would think this is steerable rather than steers 6.19pm some restless energy in body now - although I am waiting to go somewhere 6.24pm Watching TV - stoned like effect but I can snap out of it - feel like I have time to notice things 6.28pm i’m stoned, surely 🙂 6.34pm watching Fashion TV, girls seem reeeaaaaalllllyyyyy hot and they’re turning me on… warmth back in groin… END TEST My GF turned up at that point and we had to drive to my Dads. I should point out during the drive that i was absolutely fine and didn’t feel stoned at all. No effect noticed on my GF, but she was on the phone the whole time and pre-occupied. This is potent stuff. I know there is a consensus of opinion that P83 acts as a dis-inhibitor, but I don’t feel that’s quite it - well not for me anyway. If I get drunk I lose my inhibitions, but it’s a non-caring, total lack of concern for consequences type of way. With this I felt more like wanting to do things because I reeaaallllyyy cared and WANTED to. It seemed to intensify my desire and attention. I can’t imagine this creating attraction. If I were attracted to someone already, though, this would intensify it and make me focus on that attraction. Similarly, if I started then thinking about how good it would be to jump on the person (in the nicest possible way of course) I’d probably really, really, really want to jump on them 🙂 And THAT’S where action might take place… So it doesn’t dis-inhibit in a throw caution to the winds kind of way - it makes you want to do something so bad you can’t help yourself. If that makes sense 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948/2 "2009-06-17T15:18:21Z")
Thanks for the great report! You got a lot more in the way of self effects than I do. The Game scent might have something to do with it hitting harder though. I notice that when I am wearing Akuto scented products they seem to hit people more than when the same product is Neroli scented. I didn’t notice anything sexual about this by itself, I just experienced the human velcro effect. People just stand close. When paired with sexual [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) it really changes things (in a good way). ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948/3 "2009-06-17T22:30:15Z")
Thanks Snoop. I don’t normally experience self effects that intensely, although it’s not uncommon for me to feel something when I’m using a product I haven’t tried before. From what i’ve been reading, different scents can influence dispersion. I don’t have anything in Akuto, but that’s interesting it seems to work better for you than the same pheromones in Neroli. And I got a taste of the “human velcro” effect with P83 yesterday at lunchtime. 1 spray 7.5mcg shared between wrists and one spray to the throat. Whilst there was nothing sexual about the interaction, the two girls in the group i go to lunch with everyday wouldn’t leave my side, even at the expense of letting the other guy in the group walk ahead all on his own. It did work sexually on my GF last night, though. But then I had to “create the mood” first - then once she wanted it she **really** wanted it. Potentially very useful stuff this 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948/4 "2009-06-17T23:42:52Z")
I’ve been having a lot of fun learning the best products to pair this with. Some things really turn [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) sexual in a hurry. ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948/5 "2009-06-18T00:02:55Z")
Care to share? 🙂 I’m figuring 'None based. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948/6 "2009-06-18T00:22:33Z")
MEO-EST at 100-150mcg, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) at anywhere from 30-60mcg and 2 shots of Turn Up The Heat (total 5mcg). It is funny because women get very calm and comfortable and ready to do something about it. I like the above mix almost as much as I am liking MX115-MX116. ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948/7 "2009-06-18T00:28:28Z")
Thanks Snoop. Will have to experiment some more 🙂 And with higher doses of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). Although I need to get over the self effects first - 30-60mcg’s would put me in a coma at the moment, lol… ---
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948/8 "2009-06-18T11:55:51Z")
This is proof that formulas vary dramatically per user. While i agree that p83 needs to be combined with a social and Androstenone to bring out this di-inhibitor effect, i feel that for me anything over 15 mcg will result in OD type affects from others. so when i combined it with just TUH, very obvious defensiveness from the ladies, but when i added Tah and IS to it, simply amazing…the Tah is definately the most underrated [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) out there - just makes them comfortable enough to act on the -none arousal. IS, too, seems to be the perfect compliment to make anything sexual or arousing work that much safer and better - is/p83, is/ifm, is/79, is/ammo etc. best p83 combinations for me have been 83/IH, 83/203, Ammo/83/86/Tah/IH, ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-self-test-instant-stoned/29948/9 "2009-06-18T15:48:51Z")
Yeah, I’ll be the first to admit that some things that work for me most likely won’t work for others. My chemistry seems to be a bit different from most.