# P83 - thought amplifier? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 13, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-thought-amplifier/34805 "2009-12-13T12:54:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stevios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@stevios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stevios)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-thought-amplifier/34805/1 "2009-12-13T12:54:22Z")
I’m typing this trying to get my thoughts together so hopefully it makes sense. I apologise too if I am repeating what anyone else has said before and hope my own experiences still retain value and interest if that is the case. All the below is supposition based on my own experiences and shouldn’t be taken as fact or what anyone else may experience! When I got P83 and first started playing with it I was aware of the following thoughts people had about it: 1. it was a disinhibitor 2. it was an empathogen 3. it could strengthen the effects of other [pheromones](https://a314.com/) I’ve used it a few times now and I think it’s biggest self-effect, for me, is that it amplifies whatever mood I am in - ie. it strengthens thoughts and emotions or _ **amplifies** _ them and at an unsubtle spray like 50mcg does it so much I act on them. ie. for me, the disinhibiting effect is that it makes the thought / emotion I already have so strong I am more inclined to act on it. In some ways this is good but in other ways it is not so good. If I am in a foul and cranky mood P83 makes that a lot worse. e.g. I recently put on 50mcg of P83 and shortly after a sequence of events aggravated me and I just couldn’t shake off that bad mood once I was in it. In a store EVERYTHING seemed to annoy me - the music, the people, nothing was right. Lesson 1 for me: I’m only using P83 when I’m in a good frame of mind from now on I think this is why it could be seen to strengthen the effect of other pheromones too - something I have seen in effects on others. If they are feeling physical that’ll be strengthened, if they are feeling like opening up and talking all night then that’ll be strengthened. By the same token, if they are shy and anxious that’ll be amplified too. The emotions all have to be there in the first place though (which I think is obvious, but worth saying anyway). Lesson 2 for me: be careful who I wear it around. I’ll be very cautious wearing it around anyone who may be nervous unless it is fully buffered with something to help with that too. I think I’ve made this mistake with P83. As above, these are just my thoughts on what I’ve felt / believe I’ve seen when wearing P83. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-thought-amplifier/34805/2 "2009-12-13T14:22:39Z")
I can agree with what you are saying. I have not used 50 mcgs of P83 though. Maybe close to 40 mcgs a couple times. For me using a large dose is similar to being in a manic frame of mind. I will say what ever pops in my head. Luckily, I have good control over blurting out things that are too inappropriate, due to me having ADD. (I have learned to control blurting things out constantly) It does seem to amplify the mood I am in. I usually apply pheromones when I am in a good mood. I am always testing, so I want to see positive results everytime. I remember having a bad evening while wearing P83, and recall making negative comments to myself about the situation over and over. So I could see where you are coming from with it making your bad mood worse. It was not to your degree though. LOL :o Like I said before, I normally wear lower doses of P83 and in a mix as well, so I have never really had a bad reaction from others around me while wearing it. Thank you for posting your results. Its good to share the knowledge that you have obtained with others. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Six](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@Six](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Six)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-thought-amplifier/34805/3 "2009-12-13T18:57:38Z")
Wow. That’s a lot of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) to wear all alone. I’ve usually stuck with 3 sprays @ 7.5mcg each… but ALWAYS as an additive to something else. I never liked it on it’s own… and that’s saying a lot, as I luuuuuuv me some P83! Definitely good to hear your thoughts though, sometimes I forget WHY I wear what I wear, and how. NOW I remember. THANKS! Perhaps I’ll try bathing in some P78 and then up the ante with a mega P83 dose when I can gets my grubby little hands on it again 🙂 But yes, P83 by it’s lonesome can turn on you… like a pero-homeing missile, it really needs to latch onto something it seems. Definitely a spice, not a main course… I’ve always equated it as an “instant glass of wine”, for it’s touchy-feely vibe. But I guess If I downed a whole bottle in the wrong company, I’d just be a belligerent drunk!