# P83: what dosage per spray should I order, and what mixes well with it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 5, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043 "2012-07-05T17:10:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Brucedagreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71c47a/32.png) [@Brucedagreat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brucedagreat)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/1 "2012-07-05T17:10:30Z")
Dear All, I would like to try the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/), Whats the best and advisable dosage I should order? Im thinking to order 10/mpg per spray, do you think it is ok to see the effect from people around me? And what do you think of the best hits mixed with other products? Many Thanks =) ---
**Author:** ![pherospider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@pherospider](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherospider)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/2 "2012-07-05T20:42:36Z")
[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) with combination to none gives good results like ammo or a314, i bought it @2.5 mcg. but it works well only in high doses around 30 mcg for me so i hav to spray a lot more than 10 sprays. so better buy 10mcg or higher concentration. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/3 "2012-07-06T01:06:54Z")
Yes, 10mcg is a good starting dose. Once you find your sweet spot for your various mixes, you can then get a stronger concentration if needed. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) goes so well with so many other pheros/products. You would be better searching and narrowing it down to the combos you are interested in. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Brucedagreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/71c47a/32.png) [@Brucedagreat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brucedagreat)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/4 "2012-07-06T01:19:01Z")
Thanks for your reply =) I’m from Malaysia actually, the weather here jz freaking hot and easily sweating everyday. I have tried the A314 oil & spray type, funny thing is the spray one works better than the oil, the oil diffusion effects only last for 2-3 hours. I started to apply before I work, it completely gone before my lunch time. Then I order an 1.29A, it seems works very well, currently is 5pm now, the effects is still here. Hopefully the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) will works great here. ---
**Author:** ![tanuki1980](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@tanuki1980](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tanuki1980)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/5 "2012-07-06T01:22:33Z")
I too had a similar question. I searched and read through hundreds of mostly useless threads with “p83” as my query and still have not got my answer. I know the universal answer is “what works on you might not work on someone else”…But,as a Sorcerer of [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) you must have at least a little more input than that,surely. > [@mobocaster](#): > > Yes, 10mcg is a good starting dose. Once you find your sweet spot for your various mixes, you can then get a stronger concentration if needed. > > P83 goes so well with so many other pheros/products. You would be better searching and narrowing it down to the combos you are interested in. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![classicalflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@classicalflower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/classicalflower)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/6 "2012-07-06T02:11:54Z")
P83 and TAC are AMAZING together - especially in intimate situations. 30mcg of each and i’m literally smiling for a week. P83 and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) are also good buddies - P83 is kind of naughty while P74 promotes bonding. Hope this gets you started… but there are literally hundreds of great combinations using P83. Start experimenting and let us know how you go! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/7 "2012-07-06T03:09:05Z")
> [@tanuki1980](#): > > I too had a similar question. I searched and read through hundreds of mostly useless threads with “p83” as my query and still have not got my answer. I know the universal answer is “what works on you might not work on someone else”…But,as a Sorcerer of Pheromones you must have at least a little more input than that,surely. [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is a steering mone. Depending on how you use it and how much, it will steer other mixes in a certain direction. Paired with sexy masculine mones it can push the vibe more towards sensual or sexual. (anone arone and A1) Paired with more social types it becomes flirtatious and playful. (Nols bnols TAA) In both cases it evokes a letting go of inhibitions just in different directions. The best dosage to begin testing with is always 12.5 mcg. Ranges vary according to the effect your going for. From 5 mcg for a mild effect to 25 mcg for a more blatant effect. It depends on your chemistry as well as where you want to steer the combo. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/8 "2012-07-06T03:51:33Z")
> [@tanuki1980](#): > > I too had a similar question. I searched and read through hundreds of mostly useless threads with “p83” as my query and still have not got my answer. I know the universal answer is “what works on you might not work on someone else”…But,as a Sorcerer of Pheromones you must have at least a little more input than that,surely. Tisha and Classicalflower have given you excellent pointers - but to post that you just want to try [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) with absolutely no idea of what you intend to steer with it and to what end is rather vague. I could go-on for ages but it could all miss by a mile. And search further back, go before the last P83 drought - there was some excellent work posted by a wide range of people, including some of the most experienced/insightful posters we have had here (some of whom are no longer posting ☹ ) - that way you can benefit from a much wider range of opinions/experience. And IMO, P83 has gone on a bandwagon recently - Yes, it is a superbly useful secondary/steering phero in many mixes but people are now going at it as a primary component and using it in applications/situations that will never allow its particular properties to be realised effectively. ---
**Author:** ![tanuki1980](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@tanuki1980](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tanuki1980)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/9 "2012-07-08T00:15:29Z")
I think this may be part of the problem. New people just starting out have no idea what these putatives do or even what a putative is for that matter. They just keep seeing [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) over and over on the forum and assume it must be awesome but there is little to know information as to what it does unless you want to earn a degree in chemistry 😛. I think AD would do good to put at least a link to some helpful forum posts regarding some of their products or at least give a vague idea what it is on their storefront. The reviews are **VERY** vague and offer no indication what you are buying whatsoever. > [@mobocaster](#): > > Tisha and Classicalflower have given you excellent pointers - but to post that you just want to try P83 with absolutely no idea of what you intend to steer with it and to what end is rather vague. I could go-on for ages but it could all miss by a mile. > > And search further back, go before the last P83 drought - there was some excellent work posted by a wide range of people, including some of the most experienced/insightful posters we have had here (some of whom are no longer posting ☹ ) - that way you can benefit from a much wider range of opinions/experience. > > And IMO, P83 has gone on a bandwagon recently - Yes, it is a superbly useful secondary/steering phero in many mixes but people are now going at it as a primary component and using it in applications/situations that will never allow its particular properties to be realised effectively. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2012, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-what-dosage-per-spray-should-i-order-and-what-mixes-well-with-it/56043/10 "2012-07-08T02:01:26Z")
> [@tanuki1980](#): > > I think this may be part of the problem. New people just starting out have no idea what these putatives do or even what a putative is for that matter. They just keep seeing P83 over and over on the forum and assume it must be awesome but there is little to know information as to what it does unless you want to earn a degree in chemistry 😛. > > I think AD would do good to put at least a link to some helpful forum posts regarding some of their products or at least give a vague idea what it is on their **storefront**. The reviews are **VERY** vague and offer no indication what you are buying whatsoever. The point of the advanced products is for us to test them and tell them what results we get. Advanced products are really not part of the “store front”. Thats why they are coded. These are test mones for serious advanced users. It is indicated in the store when you click on advanced. I dont think many people take time to read it. > [@Ad store](#): > > ExperiMones? are world’s first and only single molecule, “dosed pheromones?” designed for your own for your Phero **mone** **Exper** iments. Each ExperiMone bottle is custom built for you at the dosage you want, in either micrograms or nanograms per spray. They take research to a whole new level by giving you the control necessary to apply precise amounts to yourself or your test subjects. The dose you apply today will be the same as you apply tomorrow. > > **ExperiMones? are meant for researchers and serious pheromone enthusiasts only.** In fact, you **need** to have pheromone experience in order to properly use ExperiMones?. They are useless to novices. (Please join our [pheromone forum](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) in order to learn more about the intricacies of pheromone chemistry) > > When used together, multiple ExperiMones? allow you to create your own custom “pheromones mixes” and formulas real-time, “on the fly”. They are like pheromonal paints, where you use your skin or other diffusive surfaces as the canvas. > > Since most ExperiMones? release for about 6 hours after applied, you can literally change your “pheromone signature” every day and night. Using ExperiMones? is like have your own shelf of infinite pheromone products customized just for you. That’s why ExperiMoness? time & time again have been called “The Ultimate Pheromone Chemistry Kit”. > > All ExperiMones are also unique, in that they are only pheromone products sold today that use only the most expensive pheromones synthesized here in the US. Due to their quality and convenient dosing per spray, many consider ExperiMones to be the only true research series of products. > > You can learn more about Experimones and everything else on this site, by joining and participating on our [live pheromone forum](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/). > > **Important:** > > **ExperiMones? are not consumer products, but for serious enthusiasts and researchers only**. They are custom built for you and are not returnable (although we will exchange, if faulty). Putatives, and experimental test mixes all fall under experimones. The reviews are not organized in the forum simply because they want it to be vague to the new user. This gives more accurate test data. Helps reduce the effect of placebo. The actual chemical name of a putatives is also leading which is another reason for coding it. I know that some people find that annoying and want to know but I have seen myself in other places that test how badly people are either misled or limited in results because they are going by data thats only relevant to the individual who tested it. There is more to [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) science then that. We are all individuals and that plays a part in how each molecule will interact with you. Hence the intro section where they ask for some personal information. There are patterns that coincide with age gender natural personality etc etc. Anyways…not organizing the data on the forum to tel you exactly what it does helps people be open and notice reactions and effects that are part of the mones character but are not its primary function. There is also an explanation of what reporting user is and about the advanced products in the stickies in the intro section that every member should have read before venturing into advanced products. > [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003): > > Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research an… I think they have been pretty transparent. You don’t need a chem degree but you do need to do a lot of reading or ask questions. Tisha