# P84 thread: first use report, since so little has been written about it

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 18, 2008, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p84-thread-first-use-report-since-so-little-has-been-written-about-it/24059 "2008-12-18T05:16:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p84-thread-first-use-report-since-so-little-has-been-written-about-it/24059/2 "2008-12-30T21:46:04Z")

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In testing P84 with P86 I have found that equal amounts of each seem to be about right. If I use more P84 than P86 I start to get these jittery fieelings. They are milder than caffeine jitters and more mental than physical, but still distracting.

Adding P84 to my [sensuality mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812/13) I find that it dulls the “Shallow Hal”, air-brushed, beautification effect of P86. I confirm that equal amounts of P86 and P84 seem to be about right for appropriate energizing effects. I feel much more ready to act. The mix is definitely less sensuous with the P84. I notice some of the coldness that Diane has complained about from too much P87 and that I have noted with P81. P84 seems to widen my field of vision; I am more attuned to things on the periphery. Adding more EST or P103 did little to erase the flatness imposed by P84.

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