# P85 a nice surprise

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 28, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979 "2007-11-28T01:16:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2007, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/7 "2007-12-20T08:27:34Z")

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I tried P85 at 25 mcg at different times today at work on top of my regular mix (A314 4 drops/CTTM 3 sprays/WAGG 3-4 drops).  
I noticed:

- it seemed to add something socially and like other ‘social’ mones I noticed a slight lessening of the A314 repect/admiration effect particularly straight after applying the P85;
- in a group setting, people (including me the wearer) were more likely to share something about themselves with the group and they said it in a fun and interesting way-definitely some kind of ‘fun discussion enhancer’;
- P85 kind of reminded me of a cross between Beta-Nol (IHonesty) and TAA (IShine) with it being slightly closer to IShine (there seemed to be a kind of jovial atmosphere it helped to bring about but with more verbal communication than with TAA); and
- I agree with m3turbo about people coming out of their shell more with P85 (I definitely noticed that effect on myself and others particularly given the fact that I had such a high dose of A314 on).

I think I am going to save the remainder of my ToGo P85 bottle for special occasions and report back soon on it. This one could be a useful find indeed: SteveO, m3turbo, and Tacitus have all said good things about P85…

-Visionary

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