# p86 and Instant Shine :( **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 30, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-and-instant-shine/25534 "2009-01-30T05:11:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jeneen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jeneen/32/2285_2.png) [@Jeneen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jeneen)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-and-instant-shine/25534/1 "2009-01-30T05:11:43Z")
The Mix : 5 sprays @ 2.5 mcg of P86. One spray on each side of neck, two on collar bone, and one right in the middle of chest. After about 30 minutes added two sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x strength to middle of neck and rubbed it onto both wrists. Self Effects: Not sure when it started exactly but I got a major headache, started feeling really light-headed with vison slightly blurry, and as a result started feeling really moody. Effects on others: (I work at the pharmacy in a large medical center) Many of the patients seemed slightly friendlier and a co-worker randomly told me that I was really attractive and asked if I ever considered modeling. That was funny considering I hadnt cracked a smile all day and felt completely like shit due to my headache. I took some motrin at work(of course I had a Rx) lol and nothing helped. Conclusion: not sure if shine caused the headache or if it was p86. I will maybe try p86 on its own. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-and-instant-shine/25534/2 "2009-01-30T05:47:47Z")
good posting but honestly the app.points were what did you in. the only thing good IMO to spray on neck/collar bone are things you already know lift you up. all my app points are on wrist/elbow/ankles/hair until i know they are _consistant._ its no surprise you got a headache. i promise changing app points will eliminate or help that. P86 made me moody tonight i think,too. i think its good for others but 50/50 for the wearer :o ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-and-instant-shine/25534/3 "2009-01-30T11:07:02Z")
I agree with lor although I do hate wrists for application of anything but thats just a personal prefrence. Is this the first time you used P86 ? How about Ishine ? 5 sprays is a but much to jump to right away when trying out something new. Could be the sudden rapid change that gave you a headache. I would scale back a little then work up even if you need to take the bottle with you and apply a little more during the day. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Jeneen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jeneen/32/2285_2.png) [@Jeneen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jeneen)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-and-instant-shine/25534/4 "2009-01-30T17:26:42Z")
This was the first time I used P86 but not the first time I have used [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I used 5 sprays of P86 figuring that just 2.5 mcg may not have an effect but I guess I went overboard. lol. As far as application points (when Iam at work) the only thing exposed is my neck which is why that it the only thing I usually spray. Not sure if it does anything to spray non-exposed areas under a semi-heavy combat uniform. Maybe I will start spraying my head so it wont effect me as much.