# P86 or P103 - Sort of urgent

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-or-p103-sort-of-urgent/32934>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [October 1, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-or-p103-sort-of-urgent/32934 "2009-10-01T15:06:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Caelas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/caelas/32/381_2.png) [@Caelas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Caelas)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-or-p103-sort-of-urgent/32934/5 "2009-10-01T15:28:24Z")

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> [@Caelas](#):
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> TAC I looked at but seems too relaxed…we got relaxed, I need to break down the barriers.  
> Mso-Est…Might have to look into that one.

Haha, stumbled on this over on the Women’s Advice…[link!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dianes-phero-notes/23360)

**Meo** - **Est** - _methoxy-estratetraenone_– At 150 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) = instant horniness. Female happy sauce when paired with [TAF](https://pheromonelabs.com/) , [P103](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and beta -nol ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) . At high doses it can cause mild, but pleasant muscle contractions. Men find it centering and calming. In women it causes a sensual slowing down of sensation and an intense appreciation for all physical stimulation. _(Paired with P103 and TAF = best sex ever!)_

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