# P86/P83 = Touch me and Touch me now **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 3, 2007, 9:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383 "2007-09-03T09:37:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 9:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/1 "2007-09-03T09:37:32Z")
P86 seems very real. P87/P88 im not so sure about. [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) seems related. There isnt much on these. P86 makes everything feel deep and sweet like your first biscuit with real butter and little bit of sugar on top. P83 is some kind of crave activator, the difference between Tater wants a biscuit and Tater wants all the biscuits and he wants them NOW! I assure you that never happens in real life. Why doesnt anyone talk more about these? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/2 "2007-09-03T11:59:14Z")
> [@](#): > > Why doesnt anyone talk more about these? Probably because alot of people dont buy them and stick more with the main stream [pheromones](https://a314.com/) and mx’s. The puratives are suspected pheromones or they could just be alcohol in a bottle this is how they weed out the pre-conceived or placebo effect of certain products. Its also why Jas keeps them in the advanced section, this way if they dont work no one will be asking for a refund. For me it usually takes almost a whole bottle of uses before I can clearly see what the Purative product does. Thats just me though and everyone is different. So even though I have almost all of them. I rarely use them unless I am commiting to testing at least half the bottle at different doses in different enviroments over the course of a week or two. Instant sexiness and Shine have me so spoiled thats hard to do for me LOL. By the way I love your Tater reports they are so fun. 😃 Could you add how many sprays you used, what MCG and where you applied in your tater report. Its helps us get a feel for how much we need to get a simalar effect. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/3 "2007-09-03T13:49:52Z")
I’ve put in a few things about P86 over the last year… it’s great stuff, excellent integrator… brings out nice qualities in people… you want superbly great stuff… combine P86 and P96 equally as the High Priestess, the one that combines the elements for higher expression… ask jasmin to put P96 back in production… ---
**Author:** ![Fra\_Septimus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fra_septimus/32/692_2.png) [@Fra\_Septimus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fra_Septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/4 "2007-09-03T16:51:44Z")
Tater, why is it that so much of your descriptive imagery involves biscuits?😛 😛 😛 Have you used the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) by itself, and in what concentration? I have some coming but I like to experiment with the products individually before diving into the mixmaster (there’s that food analogy again!😛 )! ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/5 "2007-09-04T00:48:52Z")
Tisha, I normally mention the amount in the Mad Tater Journal. If I missed one, let me know and ill run through my notes. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/6 "2007-09-04T00:54:27Z")
Fra, Tater thinks biscuits are the best food money can buy. Flour, sugar, milk, honey and sugar all in one place. The buttermilk ones with a little bit of corn or sweet wheat in em, dipped in honey and whipped maple syrup, maybe a shot of Cool Whip on top. Bring tears to Taters eyes just thinking about it. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/7 "2007-09-04T01:00:25Z")
Tater tries to ramp from his minimum guess to 10x it (2.5-25mcg) and see what happens. One of my friends is a pharmaceutical scientist who shares my arsenal and gives me ideas on what to try next. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 8:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/8 "2007-09-04T08:55:54Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Tisha, I normally mention the amount in the Mad Tater Journal. If I missed one, let me know and ill run through my notes. No actually you just put the MCG in there but not the amount of sprays or application points but thats ok I still love the tater report 😉 you dont need to change anything in it. There are still plenty of mones to talk about and you can share your formula in those and maybe a biscuit or 2 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/9 "2007-09-04T16:47:14Z")
Tisha, Tater will try to do a better job of giving specifics. Now do you want phero recipes or biscuit recipes? ---
**Author:** ![Fra\_Septimus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fra_septimus/32/692_2.png) [@Fra\_Septimus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fra_Septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/10 "2007-09-04T23:35:29Z")
So, what level of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) works best for getting the most biscuits? BTW, I finally got to 50 messages! Woohoo! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/11 "2007-09-04T23:59:13Z")
Can I have Both LOL 😉 ---
**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/12 "2007-09-05T04:21:57Z")
[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) is really adding a strong sexual vibe to my mixes. I know it really turns me on but I can’t tell if it is what is turning on the girls I talk to or its my natural pheros being released in response to the P83.😕 ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 6:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/13 "2007-09-05T06:10:07Z")
M3, is it sexual or does everything just feel more colorful like you just went from black/white to color? I thought Tisha posted something similar but i cant find it now. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/14 "2007-09-05T10:09:21Z")
> [@m3turbo](#): > > P83 is really adding a strong sexual vibe to my mixes. I know it really turns me on but I can’t tell if it is what is turning on the girls I talk to or its my natural pheros being released in response to the P83.😕 How much P83 are you using m3turbo mate? Can you describe the strong sexual vibe? What else are you wearing with it (if your mixes include [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), for example, couldn’t the Androstenone in there be the reason for the ‘strong sexual vibe’)? -Visionary ---
**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/15 "2007-09-05T22:17:01Z")
P83 definitely brings me to life but it is always accompanied with my libido cutting loose. :o I have been using 2.5 mcg per spray and using between 1-5 sprays. The vibe is nothing short of sex crazed I hit on all girls I come in contact with. I have worn it by itself ,with Ammo , and with IShine. Androstenone makes me pissed not really turned on. ---
**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/16 "2007-09-05T22:36:25Z")
I recently placed an order for [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) at 10mcg per spray with EO additive. Hopefully the additive won’t stink too bad 🙂 I will keep you posted. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/17 "2007-09-06T06:49:16Z")
Tisha didnt you make a long post about your [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) experience somewhere? I cant find it. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/18 "2007-09-06T09:17:33Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Tisha didnt you make a long post about your P83 experience somewhere? I cant find it. Yes its in the ladies section. I think [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) works different worn on ladies then it does the men. But the self effects I was getting explain some of the mens experiences. > [@P74, P79, P83, P88](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p83-p88/4440): > > Mystery Boy came with a four back of to-go putatives 12.5 mcg [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) 25 mcg P79 12.5 mcg p83 12.5 mcg p88 I’m going to test them on their own first then with mystery boy. But I don’t know which to try first? Any preferences anywhere? I think a couple of them have been pretty extensively tried out on their own? Best May Tisha ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/19 "2007-09-07T03:27:34Z")
Tisha, checked there but i still dont see the post. i remember you were out cruising and feeling flirty. it doesnt show up. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 9:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383/20 "2007-09-07T09:26:52Z")
Was wondering if anyone (tacitus perhaps?) has tried [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and P96 together yet? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-p83-touch-me-and-touch-me-now/5383.md?page=2)