# P86 thoughts: Smiling and Pleasantness **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 14, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-thoughts-smiling-and-pleasantness/23947 "2008-12-14T13:33:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 18
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-thoughts-smiling-and-pleasantness/23947/18 "2009-02-22T06:36:41Z")
P80 feels like what I imagine a high dosage shot of pure testosterone would feel like. It is a real powerhouse, and I really get into the physical side of this molecule. It has all the pluses of Androstenone with none of the side effects. And actually, I’m not so sure this is an actual masculine pheromone. It feels masculine, sure. But my husband is not repulsed by me wearing it, like he gets when I wear -none. With -none he rarely wants to stay in the same section of the house with me, even when I’m doused in EST. With P80, the effects on him are similar to its effects on me, namely increased arousal to physical stimulation, increased levels of excitement, increased excitability, stronger heart beat and heart rate in response to stimulation, increased control-taking aggression without anger or rage, and increased interest in life. If it is a masculine pheromone it is definitely alpha, like Androsterone, but younger, more vibrant than Androsterone. And like Androsterone, this doesn’t inhibit camaraderie with other alphas or elicit anger and rage displays the way Androstenone can. And it has none of the irritability factor that tater talked about and I’ve seen with P83. It is smooth. I’m not sure this is a pheromone that many women would get into and enjoy. I do, but then again, I like competition, and have never been afraid to stand on my own two feet and compete with the boys. My only problem is that the _Spartan Warrior_ feel of this pheromone, when worn alone, could be _very_ addicting to me. I guess I should refer to it as the _Amazon Warrior_ feel in my case. P80 has a sense of justice and duty to it and the power to back it that I find very appealing. Oh, yeah! It is definitely alpha - male or female. TAL - I find it makes me irritable even at low doses. I haven’t layered it much. TAA might be a better choice for me if I wanted to lower the P80 signature a bit… or I could up the dosage of P96… or I could just wear less P80.. heh. Actually, I’m not going to change this mix. I designed it as a sexy mix. The high dosage of P80 in this regard instigates and supports some pretty interesting bed games… call it friendly competition. The ratios seem just about right. Diane --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-thoughts-smiling-and-pleasantness/23947)._