# P86 thoughts: Smiling and Pleasantness **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 14, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-thoughts-smiling-and-pleasantness/23947 "2008-12-14T13:33:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 9
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-thoughts-smiling-and-pleasantness/23947/9 "2008-12-24T14:06:53Z")
P86 vs TAK comparison… Both molecules seem to be good at reducing the Lone Wolf Effect that I possess (my Lone Wolf Effect seems to come as a result of harsh dark facial features, an intense personality/look and being ‘in my head’ a little bit more than most others). TAK is better than P86 for increasing approachability. TAK causes more disrespect though - it seems to be the opposite to A314 and AndrostEnone in a way that it substantially reduces intimidation. If there is too much TAK on (say 30 mcg +) without adequate A314 or AndrostEnone , it seems to cause a very approachable but ‘lightweight’ vibe. Doing this for one day may be refreshing but eventually people lose respect and I get treated like lightweight garbage by high-powered people (who respond well to say A314 ). TAK at lower dosages (say 15 mcg ) is definitely useful at reducing the Lone Wolf Effect and increasing approachability minus the disrespect that higher doses of this molecule seems to bring for me. That bit of tension that there often is between me and others (unless I hit it off really well with someone) seems to be gone when I have TAK on. P86 helps with the Lone Wolf Effect too. It doesn’t cause as much disrespect as TAK though. It does make people approach a bit more and I do spontaneously smile more with it on (and so do others) which would also make them more likely to approach again later. I’ve noticed conversations last longer when P86 is on (similar to [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) in the way it can ‘buy time’) and women, at least, are more willing to initiate conversation with it on. Possibly a slight space-invading effect as well (nowhere near as strong as with TAA though). P86 does indeed tend to make me act and look a bit ‘sweeter’ (more ‘innocent’ perhaps?) which is definitely somewhat useful for the Lone Wolf Effect. In conclusion I think TAK and P86 are probably two of the best molecules Androtics has for counterring the Lone Wolf/Clint Eastwood effect. TAK is better for enhancing approachability, opening up channels of communication and reducing intimidation while P86 seems more attractive socially and is better for being perceived as more ‘sweet’ and ‘innocent’ (and acting the part too)… --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-thoughts-smiling-and-pleasantness/23947)._