# P87 + P88 as psychic empathic nuance builders

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 20, 2007, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-p88-as-psychic-empathic-nuance-builders/2130 "2007-02-20T15:38:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-p88-as-psychic-empathic-nuance-builders/2130/10 "2007-02-25T01:37:52Z")

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> [@tacitus](#):
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> I’d been interested in the combination of two “perceptic” -pheromones, P87 which has a mystical, Psi consciousness direction, and P88, which also has a “subtle energy sensitivity” quality… this is the first time I’ve deliberately used both (50 mu ea.) in a solid basic mix of Androsterone, Androstenol, Androstadienone, P74… which to me has a well understood signature… I could clearly pick out an enhanced energy field, tactile to holoistic mind enhancement… hard to describe but you’d know it if you sensed it… an enhanced getting, or picking up on other people… moving elegantly thorough the outer layers and sensing the inner realities of the other person… much remains to be seen with this.

Yes - tried a messy mix of P85-P88 over my background daily combo (25-50mcg each) with 50mcg TAH to amp up social processing. One is more attuned to fine aspects of subcommunication - you are aware of the the very moment the listener’s state shifts when telling a story.

I wonder how well the contemplative aspects of TAK would blend with the sniper energy of 87+88.

At that dose this mix is definitely too distancing for me to enjoyably wear when out. What is the dosage of a tacitus speck and smidge, I wonder… Also, what is this good for? Can one mellow it sufficiently to use normally or must it be reserved for interviewing people and such?

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