# P87 Round 2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 4, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-round-2/22460 "2008-11-04T04:40:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-round-2/22460/1 "2008-11-04T04:40:42Z")
Myself: Mid-40s, athletic, married I said I would give the P87 a try with TAF and P79 so here it goes … Mix: P87 30mcg concentration 2 sprays TAF 5 mcg concentration 2 sprays P79 5 mcg concentration 2 sprays What: Martial arts. I went to my martial arts training wearing this mix. I started out very focused - no mistakes. Also pretty relaxed, very calm. Very nice feel. After 25 minutes or so I am really starting to sweat. I am also starting to lose my focus. Nothing serious - just small mistakes. What I cannot say is whether I am losing a certain amount of focus because I am working hard and just getting a little tired or if it is because I am sweating off the mix. I probably need to test this under different circumstances … so I guess more to follow. ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2008, 11:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-round-2/22460/2 "2008-11-04T11:05:19Z")
A nice report of a molecule that, personally, I have not heard anything about so far. Reps to you. I must go and search for more p87 threads now! ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 10:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-round-2/22460/3 "2008-11-05T10:34:40Z")
Thanks ntk - I am still going to play with this some more. The only problem using these at martial arts is that you sweat them off quickly. Or at least I do. Phew … lol! ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-round-2/22460/4 "2008-11-06T00:46:28Z")
It’s nice seeing more experimental reports. Can’t rep you now, gotta wait a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-round-2/22460/5 "2008-11-06T05:20:50Z")
Bosshank, I am wondering if it is the TAF that improves your focus at first but also fixates your focus preventing it from making necessary shifts as your training progresses. You might start to notice this as a distraction after about 25 minutes in. Try spraying your [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) on your clothes or hair so they don’t sweat off. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 5:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p87-round-2/22460/6 "2008-11-06T05:23:49Z")
> [@Warren](#): > > Bosshank, I am wondering if it is the TAF that improves your focus at first but also fixates your focus preventing it from making necessary shifts as your training progresses. You might start to notice this as a distraction after about 25 minutes in. Interesting concept - I will try to play with that a little … > [@Warren](#): > > Try spraying your pheromones on your clothes or hair so they don’t sweat off. Thanks - but you have not seen me sweat … lol. 😮