# P89 and P81, An Observation **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 18, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-and-p81-an-observation/25046 "2009-01-18T19:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-and-p81-an-observation/25046/1 "2009-01-18T19:53:36Z")
There hasn’t been much posted about P89. [Tacitus writes about an experience combining P81 and P89:](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-novel-p81-p89-experience/1705) > [@](#): > > I added these two in to my standard sexmix brew… noticed something both cool and unusual… aside from the expected great sex… we sort of entered “old settled relationship mode” with a feeling of having been with each other and coexisted through thick and thin for ages… now, granted, I’ve known this girl for a good six or seven years but we’ve never been together in an LTR mode… > [@](#): > > very solid, grounded… she even felt physically very solid to my hands, almost like we were made of old pieces of wood or something, and we’re having this really good, solid, muscular, earth sex then hanging out, with this solid sense of being with each other… almost the diametric opposite of the dilated eye, spacey romance of Alpha Androstenol , a wholly different sort of connectedness… to which I’m thinking… hmmmm… yeah… there a lot of women who badly need this firm footed grounded mood to rest their emotive states of mind… especially when you have the estratatraenol/P74/Alpha Androstenol pink cloud of love goddess thing turned loose… I think some of the “physically very solid” feelings Tacitus describes might be attributed to P81, but the sense of a “settled relationship,” of having “coexisted through thick and thin” and “solid sense of being with each other” seem like a valuable contribution, if I could get P89 to deliver that kind of mood. I tried adding P89 to my own sensuality mix to see what the self effects woud be like. It seemed to distract from sensuality. Maybe I like “spacey romance” and “pink clouds” too much. I don’t plan to pursue that application of P89. I also noticed some subtle visual effects. It seemed to increase tunnel vision (or, at least, _decrease_ peripheral awareness) and increase contrast. I decided to wear 30mcg P89 when I went out to run errands. I had to take my kid to the orthodontist, buy some groceries and pick up some packages. I did get that solid sense of being together with people. People were not chatty. None of this “How are you? How’s the family? That’s a nice tie you’re wearing” stuff. None of that at all. Directly to the tasks at hand – as though the preliminaries, the small talk, the rapport building had been finished with long ago. This was a very American [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) – right down to business, but in a cordial way. If A314 is “Tell me what to do” and P106 is “How can I help you” then P89 is “Let’s roll.” People seemed to treat me as a well respected equal. Intentions were more task oriented than personal. The dental receptionist went to some effort to get me the next appointment time I wanted. The lady giving away free samples at the market relayed much helpful info about the product and enquired whether my son wanted some. The young man at the mail delivery service, immeditely upon seeing me, came out from behind the desk to bring a package over to where I was standing – without saying much at all. My attempts at humor were met with amusement, but not elaborated upon. Conversations were, direct, detailed and not very personal – task oriented. When I got home, the TV was filled with pictures of that USAirways A320 floating in the Hudson River. That’s when I knew what P89 was. P89 is the pheromone I want the pilot, crew, passengers and rescuers to be wearing in that kind of situation! Care enough to save people’s lives without having to waste time getting to know them or reestablishing rapport. Confidence, trust and execution. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p89-and-p81-an-observation/25046)._